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Topic: #8 Ohio State 34, #7 Notre Dame 23 Post Game

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Re: #8 Ohio State 34, #7 Notre Dame 23 Post Game
« Reply #224 on: January 23, 2025, 12:20:49 PM »
Fan is short for fanatic.  Always has been.
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Re: #8 Ohio State 34, #7 Notre Dame 23 Post Game
« Reply #225 on: January 23, 2025, 12:22:39 PM »
Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on January 23, 2025, 10:05:01 AM
John Cooper brought Ohio State's recruiting into the modern era and made it national.
Good Post except for this - it's a repeated fallacy. I brought this up before tOSU had maybe the premier recruiting coordinator in all of CFB. Bill Conley he was on Earle's staff and brought back in '91 after Cooper had a 6 loss and 2-4 loss seasons. With Conley recruitng the Buckeyes records steadily improved but lost repeatedly to U of M. Tress won the 1st yr as a dog then won the whole thing in his 2nd with many of the same players. Conley left CBus after 17 seasons in 2004 
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Re: #8 Ohio State 34, #7 Notre Dame 23 Post Game
« Reply #226 on: January 23, 2025, 12:28:30 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on January 23, 2025, 09:33:27 AM
someone should probably tell them about 2024 Ohio State vs 2024 Michigan...lol. 
    
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Re: #8 Ohio State 34, #7 Notre Dame 23 Post Game
« Reply #227 on: January 23, 2025, 12:30:30 PM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on January 23, 2025, 12:28:30 PM
   
😂😂.    Well played.  
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Re: #8 Ohio State 34, #7 Notre Dame 23 Post Game
« Reply #228 on: January 23, 2025, 12:52:00 PM »
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Re: #8 Ohio State 34, #7 Notre Dame 23 Post Game
« Reply #229 on: January 23, 2025, 12:57:18 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on January 23, 2025, 12:19:41 PM
100%.

a huge section of the crazy ass OSU fans actually wanted a guy who had won 90% of his games and been to 4 playoffs in 6 years fired. it’s fun to remind them of that. so much so that Day’s family was getting harassed and death threats and he had to have armed police officers on his street apparently.

of course now all those crazies have amnesia.
Mdot no different than you screaming for Harbaugh's head, referring to him as !@#$%&*+ CTE/Autisic weren't viewed as votes of confidence and I read MGOBOARD and Stadium and Main as they were parroting the same views. It just depends on whose ox is getting gored.

 And after November 30th it begged the question to the reality if DAY couldn't beat THAT 5 loss team w/o studs Loveland or Johnson playing in the 'Shoe then when??? That's rational I didn't hear anyone issue a death threat - EVER. Many were offering him a free ride out of town and cursing and swearing and cursing and swearing. The truth of the matter is this is what happened https://youtu.be/uQmD5W3fndM?t=636 time stamped after 10 minutes in and they are right worth a listen
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Re: #8 Ohio State 34, #7 Notre Dame 23 Post Game
« Reply #230 on: January 23, 2025, 01:01:49 PM »
Yeah as many times as MDot screamed for Harbaugh's head over the years, it is slightly amusing to see him making fun of Ohio State fans for doing the same thing.

But, we're college football fanatics, and acting like lunatics is pretty much our calling card.
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Re: #8 Ohio State 34, #7 Notre Dame 23 Post Game
« Reply #231 on: January 23, 2025, 01:18:58 PM »
I was jacked for 2002 NC and the 2014 NC, though nice the Scarlett and Gray got hot at the right time this year and sure it's nice but kind of meh. And the sport has lost alot IMO as by whoring more games out of a schedule the Universities and Networks just can't get enough. Really killing decades old traditions and old rivalries. They'll keep pushing for MORE games until they're poking their ass into Groundhog Day

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Re: #8 Ohio State 34, #7 Notre Dame 23 Post Game
« Reply #232 on: January 23, 2025, 02:09:34 PM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on January 23, 2025, 01:18:58 PM
I was jacked for 2002 NC and the 2014 NC, though nice the Scarlett and Gray got hot at the right time this year and sure it's nice but kind of meh. And the sport has lost alot IMO as by whoring more games out of a schedule the Universities and Networks just can't get enough. Really killing decades old traditions and old rivalries. They'll keep pushing for MORE games until they're poking their ass into Groundhog Day

"Greed is a bottomless pit which exhausts the person in an endless effort to satisfy the need without ever reaching that satisfaction." Erich Fromm
It's very interesting to read this take. I think a lot of OSU fans are using the additional games as justification why THE GAME doesn't matter and in this circumstance, it's the greatest thing ever and maybe justifiably so. I leaned more towards your take of 12 teams and all these additional games are too much. It watered it down for me. I questioned if I only feel that way because Michigan was on their couch at home, but I don't think that's it.

And maybe it's just because we're old and our time and what we grew up loving is gone.. I loved the importance of the Rose Bowl. The younger generations probably love the extra games and college football lasting longer and all the money thrown around with NIL and it's "free agency." I'm beginning to get worried about the disconnect from players to the school they are supposed to represent as they bounce around. As a UM fan, it was a bit easier to connect to last year's team because the stars were players that came up through the system. The JJ, Sainristil, Colson, Blake Corum, Roman Wilson, etc.

I don't know if I'll connect as much if Michigan is decent in 2025, but then in 2026 they spend a ton of money to bring in high talented seniors from other schools to seal the W.. and apparently their budget is now skyrocketing so it will happen.

When I think about the 97 team or 2003 team or hell, even the Denard days, there was a connection to the players. If I'm a buckeye fan, I'm just not as connected to Will Howard or Judkins as much as the Bosas, the Marvin Jrs, the Chase Youngs or Zeke Elliotts. It's just a different game now.
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Re: #8 Ohio State 34, #7 Notre Dame 23 Post Game
« Reply #233 on: January 23, 2025, 03:08:35 PM »
Quote from: SFBadger96 on January 23, 2025, 11:33:18 AM
Ohio State this year, because of the playoff format, can boast the best post season by far of any team ever (and the only one to have the opportunity so far). Not only did they win against really good competition, but they won relatively easy. Yeah, the Texas game was close until the end, and yeah, ND managed to make it a 1-score game in the fourth quarter, but the ND game was always pretty well in hand, and the dismantlings of Oregon and Tennessee were impressive. So Ohio State ends the season with wins over teams 2-5 in the final AP poll, and six of the top 10 (since Ohio State is #1, that's six of nine other programs in the AP top 10). Without looking, I suspect Ohio State is the only team that can ever claim that.
This will become somewhat commonplace going forward because the NC will have to win three or four CFP games that will generally be against top-5 or at least top-10 teams but from a historical perspective this is unreal.  Four wins over top-5 teams (4-1 because they also lost to Oregon) and six over top-10 teams (6-1) is just something we have never seen anything like.  
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Re: #8 Ohio State 34, #7 Notre Dame 23 Post Game
« Reply #234 on: January 23, 2025, 03:14:38 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on January 22, 2025, 08:48:20 PM
1973 is sort of a perfect storm of nearly every blueblood having a great season.  Having 6 such programs going undefeated in the regular season was sick.
Although Penn State was not yet held in such high esteem as it eventually would (didn't help in '94, though), they had experienced great success. 
It is pretty crazy, pre-bowl 1973 AP Poll:
  • 11-0 Alabama, SEC Champions
  • 10-0-1 Oklahoma, Big8 Champions, tied at #7 USC
  • 10-0 Notre Dame
  • 9-0-1 Ohio State, tied at #5 Michigan
  • 10-0-1 Michigan, tied vs #4 tOSU
  • 11-0 Penn State
  • 9-1-1 USC, Pac Champions, tied vs #2 Oklahoma, lost at #3 Notre Dame
  • 8-2 Texas, SWC Champions, lost vs #2 Oklahoma and nr Miami, FL
  • 9-2 UCLA, lost at #7 USC and at #12 Nebraska
  • 10-1 Arizona State

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Re: #8 Ohio State 34, #7 Notre Dame 23 Post Game
« Reply #235 on: January 23, 2025, 03:17:50 PM »
Quote from: SuperMario on January 23, 2025, 11:06:07 AM
Ehh.. You can't really knock the Notre Dame running game because they didn't give it a chance and when they were suddenly down big, they couldn't rely on the run. Their star running back Love had 4 carries. They had 17 QB sneaks. YPC in that scenario aren't exactly going to tell a big story. Secondly, yards per passing attempt changed wildly on the one play that sealed the win for the Buckeyes in the 56 yard pass to Smith, which was incredibly odd defensive move, especially putting Notre Dame's worst DB on the best WR in the country. OSU dominated the game, but I don't think it was their defense that dominated, it was Notre Dame's defense unable to stop OSU's dominant offense. If anyone isn't getting enough love, it's Will Howard. The guy played a perfect game. The second time OSU was unstoppable and went up 14-7, Notre Dame could tell they had to be aggressive and try to score every possession and got away from what they opened the game with.

As good as Freeman has been all season, he also had two hugely dumb calls. The fake punt and kicking the field goal with the clock working against him.
Yeah, the Ohio State offense scoring TD's on their first four dives did effectively take the rushing option away from the Irish but even when they did try it, after the first drive they had 13 carries for 9 yards.  That is some REALLY good defense.  

Agree on Will Howard.  He's taken some crap but that was a near-perfect game.  
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Re: #8 Ohio State 34, #7 Notre Dame 23 Post Game
« Reply #236 on: January 23, 2025, 03:32:19 PM »
Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on January 23, 2025, 03:17:50 PM
Yeah, the Ohio State offense scoring TD's on their first four dives did effectively take the rushing option away from the Irish but even when they did try it, after the first drive they had 13 carries for 9 yards.  That is some REALLY good defense. 

Agree on Will Howard.  He's taken some crap but that was a near-perfect game. 
But dive deeper into those stats by score and timing...

7-7   score - 1 run on 2nd and 25 by Price , not even Love.
14-7 score - 2 runs technically - qb sneak and the 2nd a fumbled snap considered a run

The next run came when the game was 28-7.

Now that being said, the defense did shut down Love on the opening drive and it was actually the QB sneak that worked. 3 of Love's 4 carries were the opening drive for 1 yard. So there's an argument for both parts to be true. Defense shut down the running game outside the QB sneak on the first drive and by the time they could get back to the run again, the game was already out of hand because the offense absolutely dominated. 
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Re: #8 Ohio State 34, #7 Notre Dame 23 Post Game
« Reply #237 on: January 23, 2025, 03:40:05 PM »
What's definitely true is that between the end of ND's second drive, and Ohio State's fumble, the game didn't look remotely close. Fair to say Ohio State was much better on both sides of the ball during that stretch.
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