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OrangeAfroMan

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Re: Best #15
« Reply #42 on: June 21, 2018, 03:17:49 PM »
yes... I know.   I will color within the lines from now on...   ;)

btw..  marcus mariota could have also ran both systems....   :88:

This reminded me of someone else who would be decent in both systems and is sort of in-the-news-adjacent:  Jeremiah Masoli.  I believe he left Oregon as a grad transfer to Ole Miss.....or it could be the other way around.  Anyway, he's the starter for the CFL team Johnny Manziel is on now.  He was pretty good.
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Re: Best #15
« Reply #43 on: June 21, 2018, 03:30:52 PM »
yes... I know.   I will color within the lines from now on...   ;)

btw..  marcus mariota could have also ran both systems....   :88:

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Re: Best #15
« Reply #44 on: June 21, 2018, 03:50:03 PM »
Tebow's backup!
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Re: Best #15
« Reply #45 on: June 22, 2018, 08:50:19 AM »
I do so enjoy when we fall into this tangent. We all kind of agree, but still have a lot of room for interesting discussion. 

I was discussing a similar point on another board. Basically that after WWII, college boomed in part becuase of a bloom in white collar work, which also has the advantage of being better on the body than a lot of blue collar jobs. But we swung so far that way, that blue collar trades have become under supplied and now highly valued (even as a lot of skilled blue collar factory work has disappeared). I still think college provides a lot of prep for general white collar work, but it’s not as direct. 

The example I use is a friend who got a kind of esoteric degree and a year or two of grad school. He fell into the non-profit world, got assigned to a department where he learned an in-demand piece of software and could now get a six-figure job. I think a lot of the skills that allowed him so succeed were learned at school (maybe not grad school), but the cost-benefit could certainly be debated.

We have colleges themselves being treated primarily as vocational, even when they’re designed to also have an academic mission, which I think can be good, but people who work there often delve WAY too much into.

On the Memorial Day thread, I talked about this a little, but I think the shift from military to college is an interesting social one. I think college has the benefit that you get four years where minor missteps don’t hurt as much and people learn to adult with some structure. Basically, I think most 18-22 year olds are idiots and college is a nice bridge while you get your stuff together. In the past, the military provided that structure for many, at least men. But we’ve shifted from that world being a paying job (admittedly with a lot of risks), to something we pay for. 

 

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