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Topic: And My Name Is Harbaugh, Look On My Works and Despair (SOC 11/30/19)

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Re: And My Name Is Harbaugh, Look On My Works and Despair (SOC 11/30/19)
« Reply #266 on: December 05, 2019, 11:03:03 PM »
I always think about starting a HS football thread, but I don't just want it to turn into people bragging about their team's recruits' performances.

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Re: And My Name Is Harbaugh, Look On My Works and Despair (SOC 11/30/19)
« Reply #267 on: December 05, 2019, 11:05:41 PM »
I always think about starting a HS football thread, but I don't just want it to turn into people bragging about their team's recruits' performances.
Yeah, I'd head for the exits post haste if that happened.

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Re: And My Name Is Harbaugh, Look On My Works and Despair (SOC 11/30/19)
« Reply #268 on: December 05, 2019, 11:14:48 PM »
I was watching a local game on TV recently and can't get over the $ these schools put into the unis and every kid is outfitted w fancy gloves, and equip, medical tents etc.  They obviously have gotten wise to the sponsorship and marketing opportunities but there's something kind of unseemly watching some of these efforts to package the event like a MNF game.  

...in my day if you wanted a giant neck roll...
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Re: And My Name Is Harbaugh, Look On My Works and Despair (SOC 11/30/19)
« Reply #269 on: December 06, 2019, 01:28:32 AM »
I always think about starting a HS football thread, but I don't just want it to turn into people bragging about their team's recruits' performances.
So make both
1 - HS football 
2 - Uncle Rico's "my HS is the best because..."


One of the threads will fade away in no time.
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Re: And My Name Is Harbaugh, Look On My Works and Despair (SOC 11/30/19)
« Reply #270 on: December 06, 2019, 11:11:13 AM »
Arizona has combated some dominance at the top (4A, 5A, 6A) this year by creating an "open division" playoff of the top 8 teams from those classifications. 
So you've got only the elite programs all playing for a sort of true, overall championship.  If they did something like that in FL, you'd get 50,000 people, lol.

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Stupidly, the championship game is on Saturday at 4pm.  FFS
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The one game I did go to this year was a local HS, between two 0-8 teams.  It was hard to watch. 

I officiated a game with Saguaro (who is in the open division championship game) earlier this season when the played the #2 team (at that time) in their division. It wasn't even close they blew them totally out. It was a great idea for the AIA to create the open division. It is also good to see some other teams actually have a chance to do well in the post-season.

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Re: And My Name Is Harbaugh, Look On My Works and Despair (SOC 11/30/19)
« Reply #271 on: December 06, 2019, 11:41:10 AM »
UW has a player from Saguaro. Used to have two (brothers) but the QB transferred. The other one could start at LG tomorrow, in place of a possibly injured player (who I REALLY hope can start, because he's better).
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Re: And My Name Is Harbaugh, Look On My Works and Despair (SOC 11/30/19)
« Reply #272 on: December 06, 2019, 10:41:38 PM »
I'll never forget living in Lakeland, FL as a kid and driving by the HS stadium.  The wall above the end zone seats had the team name DREADNAUGHTS painted across it.  I wanted to play there someday (I moved twice after that) and even as a kid, could see it was such a cool mascot.  Unique, tough-sounding....and as an adult, Lakeland has been a nationally-ranked program more often than not.  


The point is, I didn't know anything about the team, don't think I saw a game, or anything like that, I just had the peek inside a part of the stadium and a nickname and was hooked.


I'd totally want to see the big title game for AZ, but there's big-boy college football at the same time and even if there wasn't, I'd want to see the heavyweight (literally) fight, too.
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Re: And My Name Is Harbaugh, Look On My Works and Despair (SOC 11/30/19)
« Reply #273 on: December 06, 2019, 10:43:49 PM »
Our local high school is playing for their first ever state championship tomorrow.  Took my son to the WPIAL (Western PA) championship a couple weeks ago.  They won WPIALs once before, back in the 50s, but for a long time, when Western PA was perhaps the mecca of football, teams just played for that WPIAL title, and only (relatively) recently (I think the 80s), had their winner advance into the state playoffs at the semis.  So the WPIAL final is really the de facto quarterfinal.


We lost 74-7.  Just read the article.  The other school has a WR going to OSU, who is the #1 recruit in the nation.  Their RB is a Michigan commit.  They have LBs committed to MSU and Wisconsin.  They've won 48 straight games, and 10 state titles in the last 18 years.  It was a fun ride, but...yeah...


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Re: And My Name Is Harbaugh, Look On My Works and Despair (SOC 11/30/19)
« Reply #274 on: December 06, 2019, 11:18:20 PM »
We lost 74-7.  Just read the article.  The other school has a WR going to OSU, who is the #1 recruit in the nation.  Their RB is a Michigan commit.  They have LBs committed to MSU and Wisconsin.  They've won 48 straight games, and 10 state titles in the last 18 years.  It was a fun ride, but...yeah...



Oh, THAT team.

I watched them on one of the National TV games this year. They run the Wing-T and that WR played defense too. They faced a team with a 4 and 5 star DL and just smashed them.

that team is awesome.

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Re: And My Name Is Harbaugh, Look On My Works and Despair (SOC 11/30/19)
« Reply #275 on: December 07, 2019, 07:27:27 AM »
The name Dreadnought was applied to the first "modern" battleship built by GB circa 1905 that sparked a naval race that partially contributed to WW One.

Various countries expended enormous sums on battleships and battlecruisers that ended up being used rarely in the actual conflict, because they were too valuable to send into harm's way, with one notable exception.

GB switched from using coal to oil and now had an interest in securing oil fields in the middle east which later resulted in some curious lines being drawn in the Paris 1919 conference post-war.  Then of course WW Two was significantly impacted by the need for oil.
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Re: And My Name Is Harbaugh, Look On My Works and Despair (SOC 11/30/19)
« Reply #276 on: December 07, 2019, 07:32:27 AM »
UW has a player from Saguaro. Used to have two (brothers) but the QB transferred. The other one could start at LG tomorrow, in place of a possibly injured player (who I REALLY hope can start, because he's better).

Not surprised the QB never sniffed the field, there's a reason ASU had zero interest in the kid despite being in their backyard. I lost absolutely no sleep when he committed to Wisconsin.

Now his brother the OG, that's a good player who I would have liked to have seen go to ASU but knew we had little shot with him being a UW legacy.
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Re: And My Name Is Harbaugh, Look On My Works and Despair (SOC 11/30/19)
« Reply #277 on: December 07, 2019, 11:20:41 AM »
The name Dreadnought was applied to the first "modern" battleship built by GB circa 1905 that sparked a naval race that partially contributed to WW One.

Various countries expended enormous sums on battleships and battlecruisers that ended up being used rarely in the actual conflict, because they were too valuable to send into harm's way, with one notable exception.

GB switched from using coal to oil and now had an interest in securing oil fields in the middle east which later resulted in some curious lines being drawn in the Paris 1919 conference post-war.  Then of course WW Two was significantly impacted by the need for oil.
HMS Dreadnought was built as the Germans were (stupidly, wastefully, provocatively) trying to build a fleet that could challenge the Royal Navy for command of the seas.  Admiral Jacky Fisher, First Sea Lord of the Admiralty, conceived the idea of building a class of ships that would make all other battleships in the world obsolete.  They would be bigger, faster, heavier, and more heavily armed.  All of the big guns in its armament would be the same caliber.

The last class of battleships the Germans built before Dreadnought's arrival were those of the Deutschland class.  SMS Deutschland and her four sisters featured a top speed of 18.5 knots and main and secondary batteries of 4 11” guns and 14 6.7” guns.  Each ship was 418’8” long and weighed 14,218 tons fully loaded.

By comparison, Dreadnought was 527’ long, weighed 21,060 tons fully loaded, and had a top speed of 21.6 knots.  She had main and secondary batteries of 10 12” guns and 27 3” guns.  Dreadnought was a one-off.  She would be followed by the slightly larger and improved Bellerophon class.  Those, in turn, would be succeeded by the St. Vincent class, still bigger, more heavily armed, and carrying 12" main guns.  Then would come the one-off HMS Neptune, which would test new turret arrangements.  The 2-ship Colossus class that followed was basically an improved Neptune design.  Next would the 4-ship Orion class, much larger and heavier, and with 13.5" main guns.  These were such a leap ahead that they were called "super-dreadnoughts."  They would be followed by the improved 4-ship King George V class and the further-improved 4-ship Iron Duke class.  All of these would be in service by the start of World War I in 1914.  They would be quickly followed in 1914-15 by the 5-ship Queen Elizabeth class, bigger, faster, and armed with 15" main guns.

I haven't mentioned the parallel development and production of battle-cruisers, as big as battleships, with less armor but bigger engines, designed to be able to outgun anything they couldn't outrun and outrun anything they couldn't outgun.

Dreadnought and the bigger, better, faster, better-armed battleships that followed did not cow the Germans into abandoning their attempts to build a battle fleet to challenge the Brits--it caused them to redouble their efforts and build their own versions built to a somewhat different philosophy, emphasizing better armor protection at the expense of smaller main guns.  So the naval arms race got even more expensive than it had been.
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Re: And My Name Is Harbaugh, Look On My Works and Despair (SOC 11/30/19)
« Reply #278 on: December 07, 2019, 11:54:10 AM »
The Washington Naval Treaty in the 1920s was intended to prevent a replay of that naval arms race.  It sort of worked for a while.  The US converted two planned battle cruises into carriers, Lexington and Yorktown.  Both were fine ships as carriers.  Lexington was lost at Coral Sea and Yorktown at Midway.  And of course carriers usurped the battleship as queen of the seas.

We were in San Diego a few years back and I saw three fleet carriers in the harbor across the way.  I wondered if the locals had any idea there were six nuclear reactors parked "next door".

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Re: And My Name Is Harbaugh, Look On My Works and Despair (SOC 11/30/19)
« Reply #279 on: December 07, 2019, 12:40:14 PM »
Lexington's sister was Saratoga, who survived the war.

Yorktown was the lead ship of her class.  Her sisters were Enterprise and Hornet.
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