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Topic: Breaking up Bama: How to save college football?

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Re: Breaking up Bama: How to save college football?
« Reply #574 on: April 24, 2021, 09:06:44 AM »
I'd be ok with just eliminating the place kick

kickoffs and punts for field position, fine
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Re: Breaking up Bama: How to save college football?
« Reply #575 on: April 24, 2021, 04:10:44 PM »
I'd be ok with just eliminating the place kick

kickoffs and punts for field position, fine
There have been a lot of memorable games through the years settled by kicks. Generally those kicks have not been kind to my school buy I admit they made those games great. I am thinking particularly about the pick six game and the Punt, Bama Punt game. Then you have the wide left kicks by FSU against Miami. You also have the screwy kick attempt by Michigan against Michigan State and the last second kick by Texas against Nebraska. Why change something that has contributed in making the game great?

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Re: Breaking up Bama: How to save college football?
« Reply #576 on: April 24, 2021, 04:18:11 PM »
*Wide Right
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Re: Breaking up Bama: How to save college football?
« Reply #577 on: April 24, 2021, 11:40:57 PM »
I'm not convinced a game won or lost on a kick was great

the guys in the trenches beat each other bloody for an hour, and them some little guy comes jogging out without breaking a sweat or bumping into anyone and decides the contest
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Re: Breaking up Bama: How to save college football?
« Reply #578 on: April 29, 2021, 03:32:52 PM »
With the product growing stale and the same teams seemingly making the field every year, there seems to be a growing interest in expanding the College Football Playoff. But don’t count Nick Saban as one of the individuals in favor including more teams.

Speaking on the Paul Finebaum Show on SEC Network on Tuesday, the Alabama head coach and seven-time national champion was asked for his thoughts on expansion.


“The more playoffs we have, the less significant bowl games are going to be. So, it’s really not for me and I don’t think I’m even capable of judging how significant the positive self-gratification so many players get, so many programs get, so many coaches get from being able to go to a bowl game,” Saban said. “And now everything has shifted to the four teams in the playoffs and bowls seem to be pretty insignificant. So, I think if we expand the playoffs you’re gonna see a continuation of that trend, where the bowl games become less and less significant.

“Maybe these two things can’t co-exist. But if they’re gonna co-exist, maybe we should try to leave them pretty much the same. But I know there’s a lot of interest in the playoffs.”

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Re: Breaking up Bama: How to save college football?
« Reply #579 on: April 29, 2021, 03:51:02 PM »
Warning:  an 8-team playoff only means more Bama and more SEC.
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Re: Breaking up Bama: How to save college football?
« Reply #580 on: April 29, 2021, 04:27:56 PM »
apparently Saban doesn't want more rematches with SEC teams
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Re: Breaking up Bama: How to save college football?
« Reply #581 on: April 30, 2021, 09:29:55 AM »
It is interesting to look back in time a few years and speculate on the 8 teams that would have made it.  There would be a debate usually, always, about 7-8-9-10 I think.  And do you include the top G5 each year?  Etc. etc.

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Re: Breaking up Bama: How to save college football?
« Reply #582 on: April 30, 2021, 09:40:54 AM »
Warning:  an 8-team playoff only means more Bama and more SEC.
The other conferences would insist on a 2-team-per-conference limit, if any at-large selections were included above and beyond conference champs. 

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Re: Breaking up Bama: How to save college football?
« Reply #583 on: April 30, 2021, 09:43:20 AM »
The other conferences would insist on a 2-team-per-conference limit, if any at-large selections were included above and beyond conference champs. 
So, imagine some year where a conference really does have four clearly top level teams, 13-0, 12-1, 11-1, 11-1, and you end up selecting some 9-3 team?

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« Reply #584 on: April 30, 2021, 09:46:20 AM »
So, imagine some year where a conference really does have four clearly top level teams, 13-0, 12-1, 11-1, 11-1, and you end up selecting some 9-3 team?
Sure.  I'm not saying it's right, but that's what would happen.

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Re: Breaking up Bama: How to save college football?
« Reply #585 on: April 30, 2021, 09:47:03 AM »
The other conferences would insist on a 2-team-per-conference limit, if any at-large selections were included above and beyond conference champs. 
I'm not sure on this... I think the other conferences might just be happy that they get a guaranteed seat at the table.

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« Reply #586 on: April 30, 2021, 09:48:01 AM »
I'm not sure on this... I think the other conferences might just be happy that they get a guaranteed seat at the table.
Why settle for that?  It's pretty simple to gang up 4 on 1.  

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Re: Breaking up Bama: How to save college football?
« Reply #587 on: April 30, 2021, 09:48:40 AM »
I see it as providing a "playoff champion" as opposed to some approximation of the national champion.

If "we" can't pick out the 4-5-6 teams that realistically are plausibly the best team in the nation without going to either, we should stop trying.  I'm content with 4.

 

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