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OrangeAfroMan

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Re: Breakfast
« Reply #84 on: April 19, 2025, 08:11:34 PM »
Has it ever occurred to you that people might just enjoy "breakfast foods", or even eggs, for reasons that have nothing to do with the egg lobby?

I mean, different times of day require different nutritional sustenance--especially back in the "olden" times. Breakfast was the meal that fueled you for a hard day toiling in the fields (or factories). As such, complex carbs like pastries were common. Porridge (complex carbs) were common. Eggs (lots of protein and energy in a compact and cheap package) were common. Even when you look at other cultures, like China, congee is basically the same as porridge and was common.

The idea that we have something called "breakfast foods" isn't a conspiracy. Our dietary needs aren't the same in the morning as they are in the evening. Long before we had a USA, long before we had an "egg lobby", the fact that people ate different foods in the morning than the evening was common.

I realize you don't like eggs. I have my own hangups--I don't like coconut. But I don't spend my days acting like people who like coconut are lying to themselves, or they're falling victim to the "coconut lobby", because they like something I don't.
Wow, you don't give me much credit at all.  Noted.

Lunch/dinner/supper foods all have complex carbs and protein.  That's a nonsense pseudo-lesson.  Porridge?  I give you mashed potatoes.  Pastries?  I give you rice. PASTA! Cheap protein?  I give you fish or chickpeas or peanuts/butter or chicken or beans or yogurt or.......

"Breakfast" foods are horse shit.  Food is food.  Your effort to defend the science behind it only served to defend the traditions behind it. 
Anyone who enjoys eating an egg over 100 other foods has something wrong with them.  It's not because I dislike eggs, it's because eggs never became popular because of the taste.  That's why there's 37 different ways you eat them - because on their own, they suck.  Eggs exist as a thing due to only 2 factors:  convenience and price, historically or now.



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Re: Breakfast
« Reply #85 on: April 19, 2025, 09:19:59 PM »

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Re: Breakfast
« Reply #86 on: April 20, 2025, 07:51:54 AM »
Eggs are a traditional breakfast food in the US because working men needed cheap calories and protein.  It doesn't take much to have some chickens.  Why do folks eat grits?  Same basic reason, it preserves corn, it's cheap, easy to fix, and when one adds butter it has fat and calories.

Biscuits?  Same deal.  People were eating eggs for breakfast long before there was any egg lobby.  

As cities grew and dominated the population, industrial egg production took off and an egg lobby was created to make eating eggs seem fashionable, or something.  Urbanites don't eat eggs as much as country folk I suspect.  Around here, shrimp and grits and chicken and waffles are popular for weekend breakfasts out.

I don't really understand either that much, but whatever.

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Re: Breakfast
« Reply #87 on: April 20, 2025, 08:56:49 AM »
I'm having some Pho that I made yesterday.
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Re: Breakfast
« Reply #88 on: April 20, 2025, 09:08:55 AM »
My wife is big on fruit smoothy things every morning.  They are fine with me and saves me doing anything (except on weekends where sometimes she asks me to make egg something).

Eggs are neat because one can cook them any number of ways that end up being pretty different.  Her favorite is over easy on top of an English muffin or piece of bread.  Fine with me, grab the hot sauce.  There are omelette stations on the cruise ships that are pretty good.  An odd thing, to me, is baked beans for breakfast, I'm told the Brits like that.  They offer a tray of baked beans on the cruise ship.  No grits, unfortunately.  

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Re: Breakfast
« Reply #89 on: April 20, 2025, 09:24:54 AM »
My wife is big on fruit smoothy things every morning.  They are fine with me and saves me doing anything (except on weekends where sometimes she asks me to make egg something).

Eggs are neat because one can cook them any number of ways that end up being pretty different.  Her favorite is over easy on top of an English muffin or piece of bread.  Fine with me, grab the hot sauce.  There are omelette stations on the cruise ships that are pretty good.  An odd thing, to me, is baked beans for breakfast, I'm told the Brits like that.  They offer a tray of baked beans on the cruise ship.  No grits, unfortunately. 
And cold cuts and sausages. I like European breakfast. I can make a ham and salami sammitch at the buffet (or on a ship). And pair it with hash browns or roasted potatoes.

Room service is a bagel, salmon, cream cheese, capers and onions.
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Re: Breakfast
« Reply #90 on: April 20, 2025, 09:26:00 AM »
During the week breakfast is always a smoothie using Herbalife products, skim milk, and frozen fruit.
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Re: Breakfast
« Reply #91 on: April 20, 2025, 09:30:19 AM »
  Around here, shrimp and grits and chicken and waffles are popular for weekend breakfasts out.

I don't really understand either that much, but whatever.


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Re: Breakfast
« Reply #92 on: April 20, 2025, 09:39:21 AM »
We have always gone to the buffet for breakfast on a cruise.  They offer it in a sit down restaurant, but we're never tried it.  If the weather is decent, we take our plates outside on the aft deck, which in the shade often is nice.  I tried putting some baked beans on top of roasted potatoes and it was good enough that I did it fairly often.  They are a bit spicy, the beans.  They offer massive amounts of bacon which goes fast, and they bring it out fast, people like bacon apparently.  It's not really the way I like it, so I go with sausage.

My wife does not like breakfast sausage at all.  I gather it's not a thing in France.  

They offer a lot of fruit which I get fairly often with some yogurt.  The quality of the fruit varies perhaps depending on when they restocked and at what port.  They can only take food from "accepted vendors", which I suppose makes sense given the news about norovirus and whatnot.  Something contagious on a cruise ship would be bad.

We managed not to get sick.  I often catch a cold after a long flight.  I've taken to washing my hands pretty seriously, maybe that helps now.  We might be done with super long flights now, though I'd like to see New Zealand someday, maybe.

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Re: Breakfast
« Reply #93 on: April 20, 2025, 09:57:54 AM »
Yeah, fruit is hit or miss on a cruise ship (or really anywhere). But if it's a miss in the store you just don't buy it.
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Re: Breakfast
« Reply #94 on: April 20, 2025, 10:04:46 AM »
My wife likes Trader Joes a lot, which is fine with me.  She will claim the apples there are better than Krogers.  In my experience, they are all the same, highly variable, some good, some not, same with Whole Foods ($$$).  At times, I've noted to her than the apples I got at Kroger are quite good, if they are, and those she got at TJs are mediocre, but it doesn't seem to alter her opinion.  I really think the apples all come on the same truck so to speak.

I thought the pineapple on the ship was really good, but she claimed they were too sour.  Ok then.  The watermelon was good at times, and had little flavor at other times, same with cantelope.  I presume they restock at various ports.  They told me all their meat came frozen.  That surprised me.  The steaks were pretty good.  I usually get a sense when meat has been frozen.  

We had an interesting tour of the innards of the ship, including the kitchen and a chat with their top chef.  It's pretty amazing, to me, the operations are ... not simple.

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Re: Breakfast
« Reply #95 on: April 20, 2025, 10:08:02 AM »
The quality of fruit salad is directly and solely judged based on the % of cantaloupe and honeydew that is in it.  The lower the %, the nicer the joint.  If there's none, you've won the game of life.
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Re: Breakfast
« Reply #96 on: April 20, 2025, 10:14:31 AM »
The quality of any "fruit salad" is judged by individuals whose opinions of course will vary.

But, on occasion one can find "really good", which to me means unusually fresh, which is rare.

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Re: Breakfast
« Reply #97 on: April 20, 2025, 10:17:12 AM »
I'm sorry, replace 'quality' with 'cost.' 

Cantaloupe and honeydew are cheap garbage fruit.
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