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utee94

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Re: Bowl Games SOC
« Reply #658 on: January 02, 2019, 11:38:41 AM »
You'd think after getting demoralized that the kids and coaches would have something to prove.
Yeah... you would, wouldn't you?  ;)

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« Reply #659 on: January 02, 2019, 11:45:34 AM »
Yeah... you would, wouldn't you?  ;)

Of course. I don't buy the "didn't show up" stuff. Never have and never will. These kids want to win. If they didn't, they wouldn't play football or any other participate in any competitive activity. The idea that you can't get up for a bowl game against a respectable opponent it ludicrous. 
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Re: Bowl Games SOC
« Reply #660 on: January 02, 2019, 11:47:38 AM »
Of course. I don't buy the "didn't show up" stuff. Never have and never will. These kids want to win. If they didn't, they wouldn't play football or any other participate in any competitive activity. The idea that you can't get up for a bowl game against a respectable opponent it ludicrous.
clearly you've never been introduced to an SEC loss in a bowl game...  they never wanted to be there, hence the loss.  

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« Reply #661 on: January 02, 2019, 11:47:48 AM »
You'd think after getting demoralized that the kids and coaches would have something to prove.
Think a lot of those kids checked out after the OSU debacle. 
Higdon was a team captain and really the leader of that offense and the go to player for that offense. 
Bush was the same for the defense. Leader of the defense and team captain. 
Gary also sat and he was their most talented player. Winovich played through an injury that needs surgery and wasn’t himself. He should’ve sat out and had the surgery. 
I think lot of those kids just checked out. Didn’t want to be there. Apparently neither did the OC Pep Hamilton, as the very next day he was on the sideline of an NFL game in Green Bay and rumors are swirling that he’s taken an NFL job.
 

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Re: Bowl Games SOC
« Reply #662 on: January 02, 2019, 11:49:04 AM »
I consider a closely contested game to be a "tie" in terms of how teams compare, as I noted above.

A blow out is a statement, a solid win by 14+ is a statement, anything under 5 points or so is a "tie" to me, depending on things like random turnovers etc.


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Re: Bowl Games SOC
« Reply #663 on: January 02, 2019, 12:06:59 PM »
I agree with this statement, but......
with the back up QB, they were not outclassed and run out of the stadium.  They had some game.
and they showed up to play.  Not all bowl teams did.
What I've read this year on Twitter:

Georgia loses to LSU by 20: They're the second best team in the country!

UCF loses to LSU by 8: Total frauds. Never speak of them again.


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Re: Bowl Games SOC
« Reply #664 on: January 02, 2019, 12:13:52 PM »
and yes.. I know LSU was missing players.   UCF was missing their starting QB and played a freshman... who had only started 1 other game.  

I just find it humorous that so many are so quick to dismiss a non power five team and so quick to defend a helmet school.

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« Reply #665 on: January 02, 2019, 12:14:43 PM »
and the Dawgs are barely a helmet
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« Reply #666 on: January 02, 2019, 12:19:08 PM »
and the Dawgs are barely a helmet
Not true. They are not at all a helmet.
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Re: Bowl Games SOC
« Reply #667 on: January 02, 2019, 12:50:45 PM »
tell that to espn..

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Re: Bowl Games SOC
« Reply #668 on: January 02, 2019, 12:58:58 PM »
I consider Georgia to be a semi-helmet, plus they enjoy the current SEC halo effect.  

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Re: Bowl Games SOC
« Reply #669 on: January 02, 2019, 01:05:27 PM »
I agree with this statement, but......
with the back up QB, they were not outclassed and run out of the stadium.  They had some game.
and they showed up to play.  Not all bowl teams did.
I wasn't paying all that close of attention but my understanding was that the four DB's playing for LSU were a walk-on, a water-boy, a cheerleader, and a mascot.
Do I have that confused with another team/game?

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« Reply #670 on: January 02, 2019, 01:10:18 PM »
Medina under-estimates the impact of a water boy. Jeez.
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Re: Bowl Games SOC
« Reply #671 on: January 02, 2019, 01:16:31 PM »
UCF clearly was a competitive team with LSU.  (to me anyway).  I thought they acquitted themselves well, but they don't belong with Clemson and Alabama.

And I'll say again that a lot of the results could have gone either way with another random break or turnover.  Most of the matches were competitive, or close to it, and no one should claim "dominance" based on winning 27-24, or whatever.

If a conference went 8-1 and 7 of the wins were by 5 points, I'd chalk it up more to luck than anything else.

 

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