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Cincydawg

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Re: Bowl Games SOC
« Reply #448 on: December 30, 2018, 08:49:12 AM »
Or one could drop back to the old NY4 and have 8 teams, which would be "OK" and then pick the two to have a playoff game.  That would lead to massive blowouts on occasion as coaches tried to make statements.

Alabama - UCF
Clemson - Michigan
Notre Dame - Ohio State
Oklahoma - Georgia

Those games appear "watchable" relative to what we actually have.  If Bama and Clemson win convincingly, you have the same end result.

Cotton Orange Rose Sugar
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Re: Bowl Games SOC
« Reply #449 on: December 30, 2018, 08:51:12 AM »
If we had the Rose, Orange, Sugar and Fiesta you'd have probably seen something like this:


Rose: OSU vs. Washington
Orange: Clemson vs. Georgia
Sugar: Alabama vs. Oklahoma (saw that)
Fiesta: Notre Dame vs. UCF


Then you'd probably see a "+1" with Bama vs. Georgia. OR, you could just say that Bama and Georgia already played and it doesn't matter. Or you could have a rematch and have Georgia win. 


Finally, we could be happy with having a Rose, Orange, Sugar and Fiesta Bowl Champions thing.
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Re: Bowl Games SOC
« Reply #450 on: December 30, 2018, 08:57:31 AM »
I'd like that system, I think.  Going back to the Olden Times, I think it would have resolved a lot of uncertainties.

I'd have the Cotton instead of the Fiesta, but they could bid on it I suppose.
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Re: Bowl Games SOC
« Reply #451 on: December 30, 2018, 08:58:18 AM »
UGA of course can claim to be "Rose Bowl Champions" for 2018 but there is a sour taste on that one for obvious reasons.
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Re: Bowl Games SOC
« Reply #452 on: December 30, 2018, 09:34:36 AM »
The Rose Bowl is the Rose Bowl this year, but because of this playoff crap it's not the same as it once was. It used to be destination TV for a whole lot more people than it is now.


The BCS started screwing it up, 20 years ago. Roy Kramer, and to a lesser degree, Jim Delany. Thanks.
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Re: Bowl Games SOC
« Reply #453 on: December 30, 2018, 09:42:37 AM »
Things change, obviously, and the old Rose Bowl aura has definitely lessened.  That could be in part because of perceived "SEC dominance", but mostly because of the factors you cite.

As a fan, I appreciate the history, but often disliked the match ups when one or the other conference champ was obviously weak.  I recall when a very good USC team was matched with a rather poor Illinois team, and at the same time a good UGA team got to wax Hawaii.  This year a similar arrangement has UGA matched with Texas when Michigan would have been the better opponent (in theory).

So, the changes have some positive sides to them, but I don't like the bowl conference tie ins at the NY6 level.
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Re: Bowl Games SOC
« Reply #454 on: December 30, 2018, 09:50:39 AM »
If Georgia comes to play, and I suspect they will, Texas is in big trouble.


I remember when Georgia played WVU too though. Before they woke up, WVU was up by 21. 


Different year, of course, and a much different coach.
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« Reply #455 on: December 30, 2018, 09:51:33 AM »
If the Rose Bowl was locked in as the NCG with auto-bids for Conference Champions, everyone would have preseason goals of beating their rival, winning their Conference, and winning the Rose Bowl. Same exact goals as your big ten team had back in the big bad seventies. 
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Re: Bowl Games SOC
« Reply #456 on: December 30, 2018, 09:55:01 AM »
Actually, I think WVU jumped up 28-0.  Georgia had a very good secondary that year, and WVU would split four guys wide and then play 7 on 7.  UGA had not prepared for that even though it was obvious.  WVU neutralized UGA's strength.

There is too much money to be had by "floating" the NC game location to fix it at the RB.  
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Re: Bowl Games SOC
« Reply #457 on: December 30, 2018, 09:57:44 AM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on December 30, 2018, 09:51:33 AM
If the Rose Bowl was locked in as the NCG with auto-bids for Conference Champions, everyone would have preseason goals of beating their rival, winning their Conference, and winning the Rose Bowl. Same exact goals as your big ten team had back in the big bad seventies.
Worst decade ever?
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Re: Bowl Games SOC
« Reply #458 on: December 30, 2018, 10:00:36 AM »
Clearly the seventies were the best decade, since that is the one that everyone is nostalgic for. Not just CFB, but cars, most genres of music, movies, tv, and just about everything else. 

That decade is widely regarded as being the cat's pajamas on multiple levels. 
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Re: Bowl Games SOC
« Reply #459 on: December 30, 2018, 10:34:20 AM »
Cars in the 70s were mostly awful in my opinion, especially the late 70s.  Horsepower went way down because of emissions standards.  From 1970-1972 there were some muscle cars that are pretty cool, but they drive like crap compared to anything current.

One might not realize how bad those cars were until one drives a fully restored model of whatever today.  Drum brakes, carburetors, leaf springs, solid rear axles, ball power steering, bad tires, constant maintenance, poor build quality.... I'll take anything modern any day as a driver.
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« Reply #460 on: December 30, 2018, 10:43:53 AM »
In the 1970's, we had an energy crisis, terrible cars, ugly architecture, a really bad end to a really bad war, a president resign, 15 percent interest rates on mortgages, high inflation, some really bad reverb music, a hostage crisis, giving away a major canal in Panama, and everyone cooked their steaks well-done. Other than that, yeah, it was great.
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Re: Bowl Games SOC
« Reply #461 on: December 30, 2018, 10:45:26 AM »
I was in HS and college in the 70s.  Good times, especially in Athens.

Chapel Hill was a real downer after Athens.
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