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Brutus Buckeye

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Re: Bowl Games SOC
« Reply #98 on: December 23, 2018, 06:59:21 AM »
So yesterday's winners were Wake Forest, Army, Troy and La Tech
1919, 20, 21, 28, 29, 31, 34, 35, 36, 37, 42, 44
WWH: 1952, 54, 55, 57, 58, 60, 61, 62, 63, 65, 67, 68, 70, 72, 74, 75
1979, 81, 82, 84, 87, 94, 98
2001, 02, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19

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Re: Bowl Games SOC
« Reply #99 on: December 23, 2018, 09:33:37 AM »
When are the bowls going to stop tricking us into watching WAC-level football?  Can it be the 29th yet?
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Re: Bowl Games SOC
« Reply #100 on: December 23, 2018, 09:48:39 AM »
I didn't watch any football yesterday.  A few glimpses while at the bar...

watching Husker basketball now on the DVR
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Re: Bowl Games SOC
« Reply #101 on: December 23, 2018, 11:17:19 AM »
Secret. If you do not want to watch the thing, I have a quick solution for you.
I stand by my belief that in a vacuum a million bowls is a non-issue, but it's impact on the regular season is not.
Between it being so easy to qualify and abolishing the selection order within the conferences, it's made a ton of the regular season meaningless.  Every win from like 6 to 9 has no impact on anything.

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Re: Bowl Games SOC
« Reply #102 on: December 23, 2018, 11:58:23 AM »
I really wish UW got Nashville instead of New York. Then they could have played Auburn. Again. Instead of Miami. Again.
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Re: Bowl Games SOC
« Reply #103 on: December 23, 2018, 12:54:44 PM »
watching Wisconsin USC bowl game on BTN now

chili is in the pot

Vikings/Lions coming up!

my buddy from Michigan is on his way - Lions fan
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Re: Bowl Games SOC
« Reply #104 on: December 23, 2018, 05:02:14 PM »
I really wish UW got Nashville instead of New York. Then they could have played Auburn. Again. Instead of Miami. Again.
I have a thought on this that I'll get to in my response to ELA's post. 

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Re: Bowl Games SOC
« Reply #105 on: December 23, 2018, 05:10:29 PM »
From yesterday...


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Re: Bowl Games SOC
« Reply #106 on: December 23, 2018, 05:16:55 PM »
I stand by my belief that in a vacuum a million bowls is a non-issue, but it's impact on the regular season is not.
Between it being so easy to qualify and abolishing the selection order within the conferences, it's made a ton of the regular season meaningless.  Every win from like 6 to 9 has no impact on anything.
Interesting, I find myself on the other side of it, but because I think the death of the selection order was in a way liberating.
It's probably because UW went to Florida six years in a row from 2004-2009, Orlando four times, and then went back Orlando and Tampa again in 2013-14. I got really tired of being a certain level of good meaning more Florida, more New Year's morning, more upper-but-not-top tier SEC (or middling ACC). I wanted something different. But to get something different meant getting worse. 
On the 6-9 not having impact, I still think CFB is great because every different level of win would elicit a different feeling. In the old system, I watched 7 and 9 win UW teams go to the Russell Athletic Bowl, and each journey felt very different. On the other hand, if you cut bowls you have more teams not looking forward to anything after the season. And I can imagine games at the end of a season with no bowl feel far more meaningless than sitting at 6-3 and imagining 8 or 9. 
(Forgive this tangent, but I kinda started thinking about this)
The weirdest part about bowl proliferation isn't so much that it impacted what used to be 6-5 teams (though the 12-game schedule flattened out that middle). If you look back, P5 teams at 6-5 were still going bowling about half the time. Most 7-4 teams were, and usually when they didn't it was because they lacked the brand.
The biggest difference has been the expansion of G5 franchise. Now there were plenty of G5 (or equivalent) teams reasonably left out, and some weirdly left out. If you were BYU or Air Force, you could often get an invite. Hawaii would because it had a home bowl. But you had 10-1 Toledo, 10-2 Wyoming or Meyer's 8- and 9-win BG teams left home. This helps them, and the ilk below them. 
But what this has created is a bowl arrangement that's still highly segregated, and I get why. P5 teams don't want to earn a spot with a good season and then get a G5 team. It just feels weird. So the only crossover is in bad bowls, 6-6 P5 vs. 7-5 G5 or whatnot. I wish they would tinker with things slightly. Good G5 Buffalo and good G5 Troy faced off, and sad UW and sad Miami will play. If you mixed those matchups at all, maybe interesting. 

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Re: Bowl Games SOC
« Reply #107 on: December 23, 2018, 05:27:21 PM »
I stand by my belief that in a vacuum a million bowls is a non-issue, but it's impact on the regular season is not.
Between it being so easy to qualify and abolishing the selection order within the conferences, it's made a ton of the regular season meaningless.  Every win from like 6 to 9 has no impact on anything.
I don't think, to fans of a program, that any win has "no impact on anything". 
You don't think fans care whether you're 6-6 or 9-3? 
Getting to 6 is a big thing. But I would have MUCH preferred to be facing Indiana at 7-4, trying for our 8th win of the season, rather than 5-6, just trying to get that 6th.
Yes, bowl selection is more of a crapshoot now, especially since some of those lower-tier bowls are shooting for 5 unique teams in 6 years. 

But nobody ever thought the difference between the Music City Bowl and the Quick Lane Bowl was meaningful anyway. Once you get beyond the top tier of bowls, you're just happy to be going somewhere at all.

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Re: Bowl Games SOC
« Reply #108 on: December 23, 2018, 05:32:19 PM »
From yesterday...


That looks killer man. Tell us what you did.
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Re: Bowl Games SOC
« Reply #109 on: December 23, 2018, 05:35:58 PM »
So for tomorrow's family feast I picked up 10 pounds of beef tenderloin roast and after hand trimming, I ended up with 6 pounds of filet mignon and 4 pounds of leftover stuff to grind. 

Should be really good burgers - I'm guessing about 15 percent fat. I'll add more meat, probably brisket. I want to get to 80-20.


Anyway, for the filets, I'm going to do a mushroom/mustard sauce courtesy of Ina Garten. Asparagus, spiraled baked potatoes and a couple more things will round out the meal. I'll post the potato recipe if they turn out stellar. I have a backup - made mashers earlier today - just in case.
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Re: Bowl Games SOC
« Reply #110 on: December 23, 2018, 06:04:37 PM »
That looks killer man. Tell us what you did.
Worcestershire sauce, salt, pepper, ancho chile powder. On the smoker with hickory smoking wood until tender. Easy . 

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Re: Bowl Games SOC
« Reply #111 on: December 23, 2018, 08:54:48 PM »
225 degrees? or 250?
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