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Drew4UTk

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check em... coming by the end of the week.
« on: June 21, 2022, 11:53:41 PM »
I can make these things with just about anything on the door- this one is just for 'my people'... 
it's not that they are safe as a safe, but.... you gotta know they're there and what they are, and without the chipset you'll have to destroy them to gain access.... they're good for those who need to stow a sidearm and keep away from the kids, prescriptions, wallets, ect... 

for those who order from the site here, i'll toss in a shelf as in the pictures.. well, so long as i have teak available, that is.  that stuff is getting hard to come by and it's dang sure getting pricey... I've got all i'm likely going to get of that species for the rest of the year. 

if there is any interest, i'll come back and post a link to the shop when they go live.   i hesitate to post pictures of the current one as there are a metric ton of folks out there that will snag your idea and act like it was you who wronged them! when i have about a dozen or so ready to ship (the boxes, not the door- that'll be custom), i'll post images of the current interior. 


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Re: check em... coming by the end of the week.
« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2022, 09:18:24 AM »
I'm pretty interested.  I have two safes, one for my wife's jewelry, and the other for, well, things that fell off my boat last year.

This might go well on the wall in my office.  Weight?

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Re: check em... coming by the end of the week.
« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2022, 09:56:52 AM »
I'm maybe interested but I have a few questions, sorry to be a pest:

  • In the picture it looks like the "safe" is inset in the wall between the studs (like a medicine cabinet), right?  I assume, therefore, that it is sized at 14-1/2" to fit between studs and with a depth of about 3-1/2", right?  
  • I know nothing about the rf thing.  Will the unit that you need to open it fit in a ring (just a wedding band, not some large, honking ring)?  
  • Does the unit that goes (hopefully) in the ring, need power or does only the part in the safe need power?  
  • Do you have any experience with these?  How often do you need to replace batteries in the safe?  Also, this seems like something that you REALLY don't want to forget because if you do forget to replace the batteries then I assume you'd have to destroy the safe to get it back open, right?  
  • What will the price be?
Thank you!


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« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2022, 10:04:06 AM »
Dimensions?
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« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2022, 10:52:21 AM »
the outside dimensions of the box are 14"x12" and it's 3.5" deep- and made as you guessed to fit between studs that are standard 16"OC.  The lid is 16" wide and 14" tall to cover the box in it's entirety.  

it straight up looks like a picture hanging on the wall. 

weight wise, the box is no more than six pounds.. the cover/door is likely 10#, though. it uses euro style hidden hinges that allow about an 1/8th" lip over the hinged side, and plenty of overlap on the other three sides.  

the weapon is held with a rubber coated magnet- I'll post pics here of the new interior when i get to one today, they're a bit different than the one in the image... far better.. i won't post it on instagram or FB because people straight up steal the idea and then accuse you of doing it... it's happened to me twice already.  

the mechanism is 13.xxMzh RFID... the antenna, which is what opens it when it handshakes, is energized by a 'near' field of the device- meaning it doesn't need charging or batteries.  the device will fail open when it runs through batteries instead of staying locked.  two AA batteries will open the box something like 4k times according to the documentation provided, and will last two years idle according to the same documentation... i put old batteries in one which had just enough charge to open a few times, and then let it sit there for over a month and i'll be damned if they still didn't have enough power to open it.... i've yet to install batteries with enough energy to lock but not enough energy to stay locked yet- i'm still flirting with it trying to prove what is said.  i DO know that if there is a battery removed the locks pop right open. 

the antenna- i tried my level best to get RFID silicone rings like are popular for wedding ring stand in, and had long convo's with makers on producing them.  i admire their honesty when they said "they just don't last" (the rings) "...as they bend they damage the antenna and they stop working.".... so... I have some silicone bracelets, the key fobs, a credit card sized key, and stickers that can stick to whatever (hopefully a rigid something).... they all work well... a straight up solid ring can be had- but i can't afford to stock stylish rings in various metals and sizes- they're about $90/ea for the precious metal ones that look decent, and i'd have to have likely 20 different sizes of just teh one make.... but what i MAY be able to do is provide a link for someone to order them through me to the maker and at basically cost if that's what they want (and it's what i want too)... not having to hide a 'key' and having it on your person at any given time is the whole point of these things.  keeping weapons, prescriptions, ect, out of reach of kids is the other- but being able to get to them quickly and safely..... 

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« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2022, 11:02:53 AM »
Our walls don't have studs, perhaps there are metal studs somewhere, the sound like solid concrete.  The interior walls in our unit have metal studs in them though.


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« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2022, 11:48:05 AM »
the outside dimensions of the box are 14"x12" and it's 3.5" deep- and made as you guessed to fit between studs that are standard 16"OC.  The lid is 16" wide and 14" tall to cover the box in it's entirety. 

it straight up looks like a picture hanging on the wall.

weight wise, the box is no more than six pounds.. the cover/door is likely 10#, though. it uses euro style hidden hinges that allow about an 1/8th" lip over the hinged side, and plenty of overlap on the other three sides. 

the weapon is held with a rubber coated magnet- I'll post pics here of the new interior when i get to one today, they're a bit different than the one in the image... far better.. i won't post it on instagram or FB because people straight up steal the idea and then accuse you of doing it... it's happened to me twice already. 

the mechanism is 13.xxMzh RFID... the antenna, which is what opens it when it handshakes, is energized by a 'near' field of the device- meaning it doesn't need charging or batteries.  the device will fail open when it runs through batteries instead of staying locked.  two AA batteries will open the box something like 4k times according to the documentation provided, and will last two years idle according to the same documentation... i put old batteries in one which had just enough charge to open a few times, and then let it sit there for over a month and i'll be damned if they still didn't have enough power to open it.... i've yet to install batteries with enough energy to lock but not enough energy to stay locked yet- i'm still flirting with it trying to prove what is said.  i DO know that if there is a battery removed the locks pop right open.

the antenna- i tried my level best to get RFID silicone rings like are popular for wedding ring stand in, and had long convo's with makers on producing them.  i admire their honesty when they said "they just don't last" (the rings) "...as they bend they damage the antenna and they stop working.".... so... I have some silicone bracelets, the key fobs, a credit card sized key, and stickers that can stick to whatever (hopefully a rigid something).... they all work well... a straight up solid ring can be had- but i can't afford to stock stylish rings in various metals and sizes- they're about $90/ea for the precious metal ones that look decent, and i'd have to have likely 20 different sizes of just teh one make.... but what i MAY be able to do is provide a link for someone to order them through me to the maker and at basically cost if that's what they want (and it's what i want too)... not having to hide a 'key' and having it on your person at any given time is the whole point of these things.  keeping weapons, prescriptions, ect, out of reach of kids is the other- but being able to get to them quickly and safely.....
Thank you.  

When I get more serious and more time I'll check with a local jeweler to see if this is something they could add to my existing wedding band.  I'd really prefer to have the rf antenna in my wedding band because I always wear it (thus it would be on me whenever I needed) and because I'd rather not start wearing an extra ring.  

 

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