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MrNubbz

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Re: Board discussion and feedback
« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2018, 12:02:08 PM »
Common decency would demand we should have a "Welcome Nebraska Thread"
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Re: Board discussion and feedback
« Reply #15 on: October 12, 2018, 12:18:20 PM »
You guys are doing great work... Nothing to add. I do agree that we've also got a great group of posters here, and it's really nice that we are able to avoid actually making you guys be moderators.

However, I do just want to make a call to my fellow posters for a return to general civility. I've been seeing a lot more personal sniping here than I remember either last season or at the old board. Arguments--even mundane ones about whether a play is a designed run or an RPO--are getting ugly.

We can do better... 

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Re: Board discussion and feedback
« Reply #16 on: October 12, 2018, 12:20:15 PM »
You guys are doing great work... Nothing to add. I do agree that we've also got a great group of posters here, and it's really nice that we are able to avoid actually making you guys be moderators.

However, I do just want to make a call to my fellow posters for a return to general civility. I've been seeing a lot more personal sniping here than I remember either last season or at the old board. Arguments--even mundane ones about whether a play is a designed run or an RPO--are getting ugly.

We can do better...
That's a stupid opinion

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Re: Board discussion and feedback
« Reply #17 on: October 12, 2018, 12:24:06 PM »
That's a stupid opinion
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Re: Board discussion and feedback
« Reply #18 on: October 12, 2018, 12:26:07 PM »
I think the place is great. It was formerly great because of how rare and active the community is and that was it. All that about the community is still true. But now it's also great because "we" (except I haven't done a damn thing to help, so really I mean Drew, badge and any other behind-the-scenes guys I'm unaware of) built this. Which is very rare. It says a lot about the people who made it happen and the value of the community they did it for.

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Re: Board discussion and feedback
« Reply #19 on: October 12, 2018, 12:37:53 PM »
You guys are doing great work... Nothing to add. I do agree that we've also got a great group of posters here, and it's really nice that we are able to avoid actually making you guys be moderators.

However, I do just want to make a call to my fellow posters for a return to general civility. I've been seeing a lot more personal sniping here than I remember either last season or at the old board. Arguments--even mundane ones about whether a play is a designed run or an RPO--are getting ugly.

We can do better...
I like the civility comment, even though it is aimed inappropriately at me. Let’s not confuse uncivil it’s with a good debate.  And what may be mundane for you.....
I don’t like coming here as much as I used to though, with the exception of reading ELA’s prediction threads, Medina’s incredible analysis threads, and the pick-em and upset threads.
It seems no matter what I opine, the Devils’s advocates, and they are the same people and always in that mode, immediately work hard to dispute anything I say, particularly about OSU.   If you ever wandered here by accident, you would think this was primarily a Michigan Board, and that OSU is the runt of the litter. Those are just a few examples and observations.
I don’t recall EVER trying to promote my team, in fact quite the opposite. But I dare not defend them.  
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Re: Board discussion and feedback
« Reply #20 on: October 12, 2018, 12:48:17 PM »
As for adding new members. That's something I recall ELA and I discussing on the old board as kind of a hard challenge. Because an insulated board can't really be stumbled into without a popular front page. And without this, the community does risk losing members faster than it gains.

So how can we grow to ensure our future and insure all the work the cfb51 team has put in? Well there are ways, but which are most practical?

Badge mentioned finding old posters and folding them back. And that's real. It could work. But the ratio of work finding them to payoff when they become active here must be kind of disappointing.

Alternatively: We could bring our brains together and find a way to advertise for free to attract the right kind of people. What might that look like? I'm not entirely sure. I doubt any of the big boards will ever let us post a thread to recruit away from them. And even if they would, and even if we crafted that message the best way, the obstacle of clicking from there to here is SO EASY that we'd almost inevitably gain a disappointingly high fraction of dumbasses.

Maybe the best way is to advertise with specific language for the kind of people who'd be attracted to a place like this and put it on something that is NOT electronic. Like a paper flier. Which may sound stupidly old-fashioned but because it takes more effort to go from reading that to visiting, I think that we would still gain members (albeit probably not super fast) without the disappointment of a high dumbass-to-justaguy ratio.

What might such a flier look like? Here's a 10-second mock-up that we could distribute **in low numbers** (5-10 at a time total!) each time one of us visits a new P5 university.

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Re: Board discussion and feedback
« Reply #21 on: October 12, 2018, 12:49:40 PM »
one of the things that kept me at Scout after I first discovered it was the 'conference' boards as opposed to 'team' boards.  it makes a person present things and consider things more objectively than the confined 'group think' of team boards.  as a for instance, visiting UT boards just about anywhere you'll see people posting about positives (not so much lately) and ignoring problems.  people who would offer even mildly objective posts would be roundly ridiculed and even banned in some cases... it was incredibly off putting to me to see that.  meanwhile, approaching a message board loosely focused on 'events' such as games in a conference (which was my initial take on scout) allowed civil (so civil, in fact, i had a hard time adjusting) and reasonable (based in reality) expectations.  

the catch to this is/was a dose of humility.  @Cincydawg , for instance, knows good and damn well his Dawgs are pretty dang good- but instead of laser focusing on 'why they're going to beat an opponent', he instead offers reasons they aren't on the top of their game.  the same takeaway is present via either tact, but the tact that offers civility is the one typed up and posted.  this is the way i see the majority of this place and something i don't see very often elsewhere. 

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Re: Board discussion and feedback
« Reply #22 on: October 12, 2018, 12:57:48 PM »
I'm from the Larry Munson/Vince Dooley school of football evaluation.

Woe is us, we have no business being on the same field as Austin Peay.  Any win would be due to luck.

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Re: Board discussion and feedback
« Reply #23 on: October 12, 2018, 01:05:11 PM »
I imagine we have all a time or two read the comments on ESPN or wherever, and realized quickly they were all pejorative chest beating non-analytical tirades of zero interest written by folks with an apparent mental age of about 7.  Or 6.  


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Re: Board discussion and feedback
« Reply #24 on: October 12, 2018, 01:22:13 PM »
I like the civility comment, even though it is aimed inappropriately at me. Let’s not confuse uncivil it’s with a good debate.  And what may be mundane for you.....
Not aimed at you. I didn't even recall who was in that thread. Just that it seemed to get nasty. 
The Urban Meyer thread was another, and while you were involved in that thread, there was a lot of nastiness on multiple sides there, so you're not in any way singled out. 
I see the treatment OAM gets from a lot of people, where he gets into a thread and people pile on.
I recall a thread completely unrelated to OSU, over Shea Patterson, and that was getting far more heated than was really necessary. I think you probably weren't even in there.
So it's not any one person. It just seems from my position that things have been worse lately than usual. 
I think we can all do better.

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Re: Board discussion and feedback
« Reply #25 on: October 12, 2018, 01:26:29 PM »
Alternatively: We could bring our brains together and find a way to advertise for free to attract the right kind of people. What might that look like? 
One potential thing is if any of you guys comment on SBNation blogs for your team... I think most allow you to have a "signature" line. I could just see putting something like "The most reasonable college football forum on the internet: https://www.cfb51.com/" in your signature and seeing if people click over. Or just the URL.

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Re: Board discussion and feedback
« Reply #26 on: October 12, 2018, 01:43:38 PM »
I don't post there, but that's an excellent idea. And the full signature is probably better than just the URL.

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Re: Board discussion and feedback
« Reply #27 on: October 12, 2018, 01:57:53 PM »
This also might be the most poorly worded sentence to say so little I've ever written.
well, I clicked like on that post because I understood it and agreed
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