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Topic: BIGCG #1 Ohio State (12-0/9-0) vs #2 Indiana (12-0/9-0) Game Week

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ManHawk

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My final alternate scenerio:  what if the Big Ten had a champions week where every team gets to play a 13th game?

Rule #1 :  top 2 teams play in the CCG regardless of whether its a rematch or not.
Rule#2:  other teams must play the highest ranked team still available as long as its not a rematch
Edit:  Rule#3 :  teams with 5 conference games have to play the champions week game on the road. Teams with 4 conference road games get to host a home game during champions week,  unless they are in the CCG.

CCG:  Indiana (9-0) vs Ohio St (9-0)
Game #2:  Illinois (5-4) at Oregon (8-1)
Game #3:  Washington (5-4) at USC (7-2)
Game #4:  Iowa (6-3) at Michigan (7-2)
Game #5:  Minn (5-4) at PSU (3-6)
Game #6:  NW (4-5) at Mich St (1-8)
Game #7:  Neb (4-5) at Rutgers (2-7)
Game #8:  Wisc (2-7) at UCLA (3-6)
Game #9:  Purdue (0-9) at MD  (1-8)

I admit this idea has some flaws in it,  especially when it comes down to who gets to be the home team.  Maybe a rule should be added that only the teams with 4 home conference games get to host during champions week.  But if that can be sorted out,  I kinda like this idea.

Edit: I tweaked the matchups so that everybody gets at least 5 home conference games except for Ohio St and Indiana.  Essentially the old Big Ten east plus Oregon and UCLA played 5 road games this year,  so they all should get a home game.  Since Ohio St and Ind were both supposed to be home teams,  i flipped the highest ranked road team (USC) to a home game instead
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betarhoalphadelta

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My final alternate scenerio:  what if the Big Ten had a champions week where every team gets to play a 13th game?
It would be fun for fans, but the conference brass would never agree to it. 

We want to get 4 teams in the CFP. If you're basically forcing the #3 and #4 teams in the conference to play each other, you guarantee one of them a loss. 

In your scenario, do the B1G b1gw1gs *really* want to see Oregon get upset by Illinois and fail to make the CFP?

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It would be fun for fans, but the conference brass would never agree to it.

We want to get 4 teams in the CFP. If you're basically forcing the #3 and #4 teams in the conference to play each other, you guarantee one of them a loss.

In your scenario, do the B1G b1gw1gs *really* want to see Oregon get upset by Illinois and fail to make the CFP?
Agreed with one exception.  There has been some talk about guaranteed bids for the SEC and B1G.  If we had four guaranteed bids then IL/Ore isn't going to cost us a bid it is simply to determine which team gets the bid.  It effectively becomes a playoff game.  

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Maybe I'm just a biased or overly optimistic Ohio State fan but my take on the B1GCG is that Indiana's success will not "scale" and the Buckeyes win relatively comfortably.  

Indiana is MUCH better than Ohio State at beating the everloving daylights out of bad teams.  Their four biggest B1G wins are a 45 point win at UMD, a 50 point win vs UCLA, and 53 point wins vs IL and at PU.  Ohio State has no wins that big.  In fact, in three of those cases Ohio State played the same team and won by a smaller margin:

  • IU beat IL by 53, tOSU beat the Illini by 18
  • IU beat UCLA by 50, tOSU beat the Bruins by 38
  • IU beat PU by 53, tOSU beat the Boilermakers by 24
Against the other two common opponents, Ohio State had the larger MoV:
  • Ohio State beat PSU by 24, IU beat the Lions by 3
  • Ohio State beat UW by 38, IU beat the Badgers by 24

I think the difference is in what the committee calls 'game control'.  Ohio State's three closest B1G wins were 18 point road wins over M, IL, and UDub.  Indiana's were one-score wins over IA and PSU and a 10 point win over Oregon.  Against the best teams they have played, IU has not been able to put the games away.  The only team Ohio State didn't put away was Texas way back in week 1.  

There is another issue here that I think plays into this.  Some of this is something that you might call "Helmet Privilege".  Part of the reason that Ohio State didn't beat (at least) UCLA and Purdue by 50+ like Indiana did is simply that Ryan Day knows that Ohio State doesn't need to beat UCLA and Purdue by 50+.  Ohio State's is one of the biggest helmets in the sport and they are the defending Champions so nobody is going to question whether or not Ohio State belongs so long as they win double-digit games.  Indiana was never ranked above #4 prior to this season, hasn't won a league title in almost 60 years, and just in general has mostly been a doormat for as long as anyone can remember so I think that Cignetti faces a different calculus.  

 

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