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Topic: Big Ten West -- Who is best?

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Re: Big Ten West -- Who is best?
« Reply #42 on: August 09, 2017, 06:59:44 AM »
The self-promotion is working.
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« Reply #43 on: August 09, 2017, 11:31:08 PM »
has PJ always won big in his first season?
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« Reply #44 on: August 10, 2017, 01:07:14 AM »
I'm glad that the pale ones aren't heavily sought after.

All the more for me.
Just an observation. I am Northern European (Luxembourg, England, maybe points farther north). I am either peach, or I am cherry red. There is nothing I can do about it. So I don't hold pale against anyone. By the same token, I don't hold dark-skin against anyone, either.

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« Reply #45 on: August 10, 2017, 07:05:25 AM »
Skin tone is like seasons. I like seasons, except those damn polar vortex things. The Canadians should keep those.
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« Reply #46 on: August 10, 2017, 07:10:51 AM »
has PJ always won big in his first season?
Well, he's only had one HC job before this one and he went 1-11 in his first year. Then 8-5, 8-5 and 13-1.

He learned how to lose to UW last year, so he's ready to continue the tradition. But he did beat NU and Illinois. Heh.
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« Reply #47 on: August 10, 2017, 08:14:04 AM »
he's not doomed, but probably can't win the west this season
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« Reply #48 on: August 10, 2017, 08:30:51 AM »

I think his biggest deterrent is himself. Some kids buy into the BS and some don't. We'll see how he recruits as a result. I'm thinking his recruiting ceiling are the same types of kids he had at WMU - the chip on the shoulder kind, which can work. Time will tell.


There was a thread on one of the Badger boards that shows him in WMU marketing pictures. After the 1-11 season he had a low profile in them. Before last season he dominated them. And you should see the one for this coming season. Jeez. It's all about him. I'll try to find it.
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« Reply #49 on: August 10, 2017, 08:40:09 AM »

BTW... PJ was raised properly. Not sure what happened since.


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« Reply #50 on: August 10, 2017, 09:07:19 AM »
I think his biggest deterrent is himself. Some kids buy into the BS and some don't. We'll see how he recruits as a result. I'm thinking his recruiting ceiling are the same types of kids he had at WMU - the chip on the shoulder kind, which can work. Time will tell.


How'd mean "chip on the shoulder kind"?

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« Reply #51 on: August 10, 2017, 09:22:33 AM »
not sure why the love for the
gophs with a new staff

I think the reasons are a little multifaceted.
1. I'll agree with what Badge said about the self-promotion. Fleck comes in with a wave of energy. All new coaches talk about revitalizing rosters, getting more out of kids, and I think he might be able to, to a degree. But yeah, hype matters in the love part.
2. The Gophers return a good bit. You lose a so-so QB, but return two good backs, a veteran tight end, big-play WR, and some solid front seven pieces. That's enough to be solid, and Minnesota is usually solid, often close to a but more.

The situation isn't far from his first WMU team, which had a lot of veterans, granted low-ceiling ones off a team that played better than its record. His first team ended up stripped down to the studs, while running the wrong offense for the MAC, but I can't recall if that was a purposeful youth movement or a devastating wave of injuries (I seem to recall the latter, but can't find a reference).

3. Minnesota hasn't been put off by challenging spots. They lost a coach and got better with his assistant. They lost half the team and had their head coach all but fire himself and win a bowl game, so perhaps a new staff won't hurt.

So that's the case why there's probably love. He could also have another year 0 and suck brutally, or the WMU thing could just be one instance and not a pattern.

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« Reply #52 on: August 10, 2017, 10:25:27 AM »
How'd mean "chip on the shoulder kind"?

Hungry 2-3* kids that were passed over.
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« Reply #53 on: August 10, 2017, 12:58:47 PM »
The self-promotion is working.
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« Reply #54 on: August 10, 2017, 01:01:53 PM »

It's a 125 y/o rivalry. Of course we're gonna talk about it.


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« Reply #55 on: August 10, 2017, 02:58:44 PM »
Skin tone is like seasons. I like seasons, except those damn polar vortex things. The Canadians should keep those.
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