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Topic: Big Ten Power Rankings After Week 11

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Benthere2

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Re: Big Ten Power Rankings After Week 11
« Reply #28 on: November 11, 2024, 03:11:08 PM »
bowls are better than sitting out

any bowl is better than the pinstripe bowl (dangerous field to play on ) 
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Re: Big Ten Power Rankings After Week 11
« Reply #29 on: November 11, 2024, 03:12:25 PM »
Quote from: Benthere2 on November 11, 2024, 03:11:08 PM
bowls are better than sitting out

any bowl is better than the pinstripe bowl (dangerous field to play on )

agreed on both counts

mostly better to get the extra practices and a perk trip for the roster
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Re: Big Ten Power Rankings After Week 11
« Reply #30 on: November 11, 2024, 03:23:09 PM »
This discussion is why, even if it doesn't turn out, McIntosh's decision to hire Fickell was the right call. He was trying to make Wisconsin one of the top programs; he wasn't content to just be one of the better also-rans.

Personally, I like the upper-tier of the also ran bowls if only because they are often good matchups. I don't care about most of the bowl games in December and rarely watch them. But extra practice is good.
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Re: Big Ten Power Rankings After Week 11
« Reply #31 on: November 11, 2024, 03:45:13 PM »
I'll agree that Iowa, Minnesota, Illinois, Michigan, Wisconsin, & UCLA sound better matching up than the bottom half

Nebraska, USC, Michigan st. Northwestern

but, I don't think those matchups are much better

before last Friday UCLA would have been in the lower tier
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Re: Big Ten Power Rankings After Week 11
« Reply #32 on: November 12, 2024, 09:36:55 AM »
Quote from: ELA on November 11, 2024, 01:19:53 PM
Correct.  Although all of those games have gone according to script except Northwestern beating Maryland
Definitely a slightly different angle at ranking, but very curious to see final records and finishes compared to how you have them ranked now.  Good angle and logic behind it.
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Re: Big Ten Power Rankings After Week 11
« Reply #33 on: November 12, 2024, 10:00:04 AM »
Quote from: SuperMario on November 12, 2024, 09:36:55 AM
Definitely a slightly different angle at ranking, but very curious to see final records and finishes compared to how you have them ranked now.  Good angle and logic behind it.
The obvious flaw is that tossing out results against the top 4, because those are all losses, is ignoring the fact that Indiana-Michigan was a good game, in Bloomington; and Indiana-MSU was a blowout in East Lansing.

But it does sort of even out the fact that MSU has already played 3 of those 4, and neither of the bottom 2; while Iowa has only played 1 of the top 4, and played 1 of the bottom 2.  Minnesota hasn't played a single team in the top 4 or bottom 2.
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Re: Big Ten Power Rankings After Week 11
« Reply #34 on: November 12, 2024, 10:50:10 AM »
Quote from: LittlePig on November 11, 2024, 09:16:24 AM
Wow.  I guess you are not impressed at all with UCLA's current 3-game win streak.


UCLA's turn-around, winning three straight after a 1-5 start and logging awful statistics in several categories is one of the more remarkable happenings this season. Through their first six games, the Bruins offense had not scored more than 20 points in any game, averaging 14.5 pts/game.

At 4-5 now a bowl game is more than possible, needing to go 2-1 against teams who are 5-5 or 4-5 like UCLA. Any Bowl in DeShaun Foster's first season makes his start at UCLA a success.


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Re: Big Ten Power Rankings After Week 11
« Reply #35 on: November 12, 2024, 10:54:45 AM »
hah, scoring 27 at Nebraska with a pick 6 and 20 vs the Hawks
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Re: Big Ten Power Rankings After Week 11
« Reply #36 on: November 12, 2024, 01:36:10 PM »
Updated SOR/SP+ bracket


  • #12 Boise State at #5 Georgia; winner vs. #4 SMU
  • #11 Tennessee at #6 OHIO STATE; winner vs. #3 BYU
  • #10 Miami at #7 PENN STATE; winner vs. #2 Texas
  • #9 INDIANA at #8 Alabama; winner vs. #1 OREGON
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Re: Big Ten Power Rankings After Week 11
« Reply #37 on: November 12, 2024, 02:34:27 PM »
looks about right 4 each from the B1G and SEC

Dawgs with the #5 seed
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Re: Big Ten Power Rankings After Week 11
« Reply #38 on: November 12, 2024, 04:12:21 PM »
Quote from: ELA on November 12, 2024, 01:36:10 PM
Updated SOR/SP+ bracket

  • #12 Boise State at #5 Georgia; winner vs. #4 SMU
  • #11 Tennessee at #6 OHIO STATE; winner vs. #3 BYU
  • #10 Miami at #7 PENN STATE; winner vs. #2 Texas
  • #9 INDIANA at #8 Alabama; winner vs. #1 OREGON

It will be interesting who the CFP committee ranks higher

Miami,  SMU or Boise St.   The #4 seed could possibly go to Boise St.
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Re: Big Ten Power Rankings After Week 11
« Reply #39 on: November 12, 2024, 05:36:47 PM »
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Re: Big Ten Power Rankings After Week 11
« Reply #40 on: November 12, 2024, 05:41:31 PM »
Considering the top-4, it seems that Indiana is the wildcard.  Ohio State's one point loss at Oregon and one-score win at Penn State pretty strongly suggest that tOSU/Oregon are about equal (you can reasonably argue either side of that) and that Penn State is a step behind those two.  

Indiana has yet to play any of the other top-4 teams so they are harder to assess.  Looking at opponents that any of the top-4 have in common:

Ohio State:
Oregon and tOSU are about equal, PSU a step back.  

UCLA:
IU>Ore>PSU

Michigan State:
IU>tOSU>Ore

Illinois:
Ore>PSU

Michigan:
Ore>IU

Washington:
PSU>IU

Maryland:
Ore>IU

Nebraska:
IU>tOSU (by a lot)

Purdue:
tOSU>Ore
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Re: Big Ten Power Rankings After Week 11
« Reply #41 on: November 12, 2024, 06:29:44 PM »
Yes,  a couple weeks ago,  I think Indiana would have been favored to beat Ohio St using comparative scores.  Since then,  Indiana looks a little more vulnerable and Ohio St has looked better. 

Ind-OSU should be a good game in 2 weeks.  Maybe Indiana will look more fresh after it's bye week. 

OSU still has a potential trap game against NW this week but even if OSU has an off game against NW,  OSU should still win.  Playing in Wrigley field should help motivate the Buckeyes.
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