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Re: Big Ten Expansion
« Reply #70 on: April 03, 2024, 06:33:46 AM »
A lot of this is of course age, and wealth, related.  I do things now I would not have chosen 30 years ago.  I'm very much into the "take it easy" mode if I can.

I could drive ~12 hours and be wasted, pretty much, or just fly and arrive in OK shape.

We're meeting friends in Orlando (one of my least favorite cities) in May and I looked at flights, they are $137 in coach from here, but then I'd rent a car.  So we'll drive.

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« Reply #71 on: April 04, 2024, 07:03:59 AM »
Flying sucks.


I rather enjoy it. Of course, much of that also depends on the airports I'm flying in and out of.
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Re: Big Ten Expansion
« Reply #72 on: April 04, 2024, 07:15:18 AM »
I have a minor dislike of flying, I don't find it "entertaining" at all, even in the rare occasions when we're in First.  First Class domestic is pretty much a nonevent, for me, some more room, fine, more attention, fine, but it's still sitting and waiting and doing little, almost like posting here.

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« Reply #73 on: April 04, 2024, 09:22:48 AM »
I hate flying.

I love airports though, the energy is unbelievable.  Excitement, concern, fear, happiness-- the emotions are palpable.  Everyone is going somewhere for a reason, sometimes good, sometimes bad, but the combined energy in airports is just fascinating to me.

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« Reply #74 on: April 04, 2024, 09:48:43 AM »
I dislike flying and airports
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« Reply #75 on: April 04, 2024, 09:55:04 AM »
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« Reply #76 on: April 05, 2024, 07:09:40 AM »
I used to travel a lot for work through Denver's old Stapleton airport and consequently developed a serious hatred for flying.
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« Reply #77 on: April 05, 2024, 10:01:24 AM »

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« Reply #78 on: April 05, 2024, 11:10:37 AM »
I doubt anyone likes flying commercially to the point they would choose to fly A to B and then reboard and go B to A because they like it.

I enjoy driving from some kinds of As to Bs.  

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« Reply #79 on: April 05, 2024, 06:46:55 PM »
Inside Edition still exists?!?  I though that died like 20 years ago.
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« Reply #80 on: April 06, 2024, 02:38:27 PM »
Flying is fine.  I just have 2 gripes.  
Having to show up early negates much of the advantage.  That's just fucking stupid.
And it's not fun being packed in like sardines.  Just make the whole plane "first class."  

You can charge more, as long as we don't have to show up so far ahead of the flight.  
Again, this tiered bullshit is unethical.  Just as auto companies should just make the best version of each car they offer (thus lowering the cost of it), airlines should make the flight as comfortable as possible, thus making the cost worth it for the customer.  

You can make money without screwing over x% of your customers.  
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« Reply #81 on: April 07, 2024, 01:04:31 PM »
OAM displaying his typical depth of understanding of economics and consumer behavior. 

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« Reply #82 on: April 07, 2024, 08:20:03 PM »
No sir, it's because I understand it that I make a comment like that. 

You can more easily screw over your customer for every thousandth of a cent profit and make money, but you don't HAVE to. 
It's a choice. 

Thanks for the 19th straight post insulting me on your end.  Really contributes to the site.
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« Reply #83 on: April 08, 2024, 10:20:14 AM »
No sir, it's because I understand it that I make a comment like that. 

You can more easily screw over your customer for every thousandth of a cent profit and make money, but you don't HAVE to. 
It's a choice. 

Thanks for the 19th straight post insulting me on your end.  Really contributes to the site.
It's also a choice how to fly.

You know why CD always talks about getting upgraded to first class? Because not enough first class tickets are sold. A plane maybe has 15-20 first class seats, and it's rare that they're all sold for first class prices. Loyalty members and frequent fliers end up there as a "perk". 

You know why airlines are at a race to the bottom for ticket costs, scrapping anything that makes customers comfortable? Because every fare is available on the internet, easily comparable, and consumers will buy the cheapest fare even if it means flying a no-frills airline. I'm convinced some consumers would sit out on the wing if they could save $10. 

You know why nobody that's not rich (and despite your pleas, most on this site aren't "rich") does what you suggest and makes use of the option that you don't have to show up hours early--which exists and is called flying private? Because it's damned expensive, that's why. There are all sorts of options out there where you can book these flights, but very few people can afford it. 

Simply put, if bigger seats i.e. "make the whole plane first class" was something mainstream consumers would pay for, there would be at least ONE airline doing it. But we're not willing to pay for it. 

Flying sucks, because all we're willing to pay for is a great big Greyhound in the sky. Flying sucks because we, as consumers, chose low price over  high quality. 

That's what I mean when I say you don't understand economics or consumer behavior. We got where we are re: flying because it was driven by what consumers wanted--low price. "Make the whole plane first class" is something consumers SAY we want, but then we pick the flight based on price, and bitch about why the airline experience is so shitty. 

 

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