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Re: Better job?
« Reply #56 on: May 28, 2021, 06:10:09 PM »
1964 Final AP Football Poll

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1< 2Alabama (34.5)SEC (Southeastern)10-0515.5W 21-14 N Auburn
2< 3Arkansas (11.5)Southwest10-0486.5 
3< 1Notre Dame (6)Ind (Independent)9-1442L 20-17 A USC
4< 4Michigan (3)Big Ten8-1400 

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Re: Better job?
« Reply #57 on: May 28, 2021, 06:10:40 PM »
1965 Final AP Football Poll

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1< 4Alabama (37)SEC (Southeastern)9-1-1537W 39-28 N #3 Nebraska (Orange)
2< 1Michigan State (18)Big Ten10-1479L 14-12 N #5 UCLA (Rose)
3< 2Arkansas (1)Southwest10-1413 
4< 5UCLA (1)AAWU (Athletic Association of Western Universities)8-2-1391 

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Re: Better job?
« Reply #58 on: May 28, 2021, 06:11:18 PM »
1966 Final AP Football Poll

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1< 1Notre Dame (41)Ind (Independent)9-0-1506DNP (Did not play)
2< 2Michigan State (8)Big Ten9-0-1471 
3< 3Alabama (7)SEC (Southeastern)10-0428W 34-7 N #6 Nebraska (Sugar)
4< 4GeorgiaSEC (Southeastern)9-1332 

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« Reply #59 on: May 28, 2021, 06:12:03 PM »
1967 Final AP Football Poll

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[th]Last Week[/th]
1< 1USC (36)AAWU (Athletic Association of Western Universities)9-1474DNP (Did not play)
2< 2Tennessee (11)SEC (Southeastern)8-1436 
3< 5OklahomaBig 88-1311W 21-14 A Nebraska
4< NRIndianaBig Ten9-1245W 19-14 H Purdue

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« Reply #60 on: May 28, 2021, 06:12:39 PM »
December 2, 1968 AP Football Poll

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1
< 1
Ohio State (34)
Big Ten
9-0
770
DNP (Did not play)

2
< 2
USC (2)
Pac-8
9-0-1
631


3
< 3
Penn State (3)
Ind (Independent)
9-0
618


4
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Georgia
SEC (Southeastern)
8-0-2
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« Reply #61 on: May 28, 2021, 06:13:14 PM »
December 8, 1969 AP Football Poll

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[th]Rec[/th]
[th]Pts[/th]
[th]Last Week[/th]
1< 1Texas (22)Southwest10-0580W 15-14 A #2 Arkansas
2< 3Penn State (5)Ind (Independent)10-0492 
3< 2ArkansasSouthwest9-1426L 15-14 H #1 Texas
4< 4Ohio State (1)Big Ten8-1374 

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« Reply #62 on: May 28, 2021, 06:26:28 PM »
Quote from: ELA on May 28, 2021, 05:58:29 PM
I'm mobile, so I can't look it up. But without getting too deep into who should have gone, and just going with who the AP top four going into the bowls were. How many playoff appearances would each of the helmet schools have had in the seventies, which I think we all agree is the most helmety decade
Ha, I was just looking up stuff for the best non-NC thread, so I'll share here:
1970 - Texas, OSU, Nebraska, Tennessee
1971 - Nebraska, Alabama, OU, Michigan........I'm thinking a 4-team playoff helps out Bo Schembechler A LOT.  Let's see.
1972 - USC, OU, OSU, Alabama
1973 - Alabama, OU, ND, OSU
1974 - OU, Alabama, OSU, Michigan
1975 - OSU, A&M, OU, Alabama
1976 - Pitt, Michigan, USC, Maryland
1977 - Texas, OU, Alabama, Michigan
1978 - Penn St, Alabama, USC, OU
1979 - OSU, Alabama, USC, FSU
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Wow, Alabama makes it 8 of the 10 years.  Jesus. 
The only out-of-place type teams were '75 A&M, '76 Maryland, and '79 FSU.  Pitt's '76 peak was a one-off and I don't know what tier they were back then, but they're considered one of the great individual teams.  But still, that's only 4 ouf of 40 that wasn't what we'd consider a helmet team.  Penn St may been a 'have-not' back then, but I wasn't born yet.
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Helmets:
8 Alabama
7 OU
6 OSU
4 Michigan, USC
2 Nebraska, Texas
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« Reply #63 on: May 28, 2021, 06:29:05 PM »
5th place teams:
OSU, Auburn, Penn St, Michigan, USC, Michigan, Georgia, ND*, Michigan, OU
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*won NC
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Wow, UM makes a few playoffs, but they'd have just missed out 3 times as well.
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« Reply #64 on: May 28, 2021, 06:29:36 PM »
You formatted a lot better than I did,  thanks, and got the right decade also.
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« Reply #65 on: May 29, 2021, 02:50:05 PM »
Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on May 28, 2021, 09:41:59 AM
The Pirate is the type of coach that could bring national championships to Ann Arbor and not survive based on personality.

Pelini is a great example of personality doing him in. Guy won a ton of games at the helm in Lincoln but year by year what fans were frustrated by was Pelini’s hot-headed, juvenile sideline antics and abrasive approach to media relations.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ool4HGJqmWg
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« Reply #66 on: May 29, 2021, 09:47:23 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on May 28, 2021, 05:44:02 PM
If we have say 8 Blue Bloods, obviously they could all participate in four years twice in theory.

If we have say 16 programs with realistic chances to make a playoff, it gets dicier obviously, but all 16 COULD do it in four years of course, in theory.

The problem of course is one can pencil in Clemson Bama Ohio State in most years and the other 11 are vying for slot 4 often as not.

As we have noted, ten years ago Clemson/Bama were not dominant, and they may not be in five more years.  Ohio State seems position to make the playoffs more than ha;f the time, it would appear.
Ten years ago Bama won the first of two BTB NCs. And lost but the one game the year before in 2010 to $cam and NC Auburn. In fact every year since Saban was hired in 2007 the NC has been Alabama or a team that beat Alabama except in 2013 when Auburn lost on the last play of the NCG to FSU.
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« Reply #67 on: May 29, 2021, 09:50:46 PM »
Bama has been dominant since then, not so much Clemson.  I'm discussing who occupies the playoffs consistently and how that may change with some time.  It could be Bama/Ohio State over the next decade, perhaps.
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« Reply #68 on: May 29, 2021, 10:51:34 PM »
I don't think there are 8 blue bloods.  More precisely, there are more than 8 fanbases that would expect AT LEAST 2 playoff appearances per decade.
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Alabama, Ohio St, now Clemson, ND, Florida, Georgia, Penn St, LSU, Michigan, Oregon?, USC, Texas, Oklahoma are definites on this.  Fans of Nebraska, Tennessee, Auburn, Washington, Miami, Wisconsin, and Texas A&M may have such high expectations, but not across the board.  
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So that's at least 13, maybe a couple more, a couple less...but it's more than 8.  
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« Reply #69 on: May 30, 2021, 05:51:46 AM »
The list is qualitative, but I think of it as the Olde Masters in CFB who were gnarly for long periods perhaps long ago and still credible.  My own list is:

OSU  Texas  OU  USC  Michigan  Bama  Nebraska  (I know that is seven.)

For me, PSU and Tenn just miss the exalted list.  Of course, today several of them are languishing, giving rise to the question as to how long a team can languish, like Army, Ole Miss, Minny, before dropping out.  we each can have our own list of course.

I'd guess fans of the teams you listed OFTEN expect at least two playoff appearances a decade, if not more.
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