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Topic: Best team that didn't win anything important

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OrangeAfroMan

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Re: Best team that didn't win anything important
« Reply #42 on: June 14, 2020, 08:08:51 PM »
1998 Kansas State!

Started 10-0, was upset by A&M in the BXIICG, and lost to Purdue @ the Alamo.
They held 8 of their first 9 opponents to single-digits.  
QB Bishop was a Heisman contender.

Bubkus.
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Re: Best team that didn't win anything important
« Reply #43 on: June 14, 2020, 09:01:03 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on June 14, 2020, 08:08:51 PM
1998 Kansas State!

Started 10-0, was upset by A&M in the BXIICG, and lost to Purdue @ the Alamo.
They held 8 of their first 9 opponents to single-digits. 
QB Bishop was a Heisman contender.

Bubkus.
That team might be the poster child for this topic.
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Re: Best team that didn't win anything important
« Reply #44 on: June 14, 2020, 09:34:22 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on June 14, 2020, 08:08:51 PM
1998 Kansas State!

Started 10-0, was upset by A&M in the BXIICG, and lost to Purdue @ the Alamo.
They held 8 of their first 9 opponents to single-digits. 
QB Bishop was a Heisman contender.

Bubkus.
Won a division though? Are we counting that?

And it was a program that had not finished first in a conference or division since 1934. (I went back and rewatched chunks of that CCG. Just an insane game)
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Re: Best team that didn't win anything important
« Reply #45 on: June 14, 2020, 10:08:18 PM »
Speaking of...2003 Oklahoma. Was the dominant #1 team until they got waxed by K. State in the championship game then lost in the title game to LSU. Ended up with only a divisional crown.
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Re: Best team that didn't win anything important
« Reply #46 on: June 14, 2020, 10:41:23 PM »
1994 Colorado

Insanely loaded offense: Heisman winner Rashaan Salaam, Kordell Stewart, Michael Westbrook, Murderous Rae Carruth, Christian Fauria.

11-1, losing only to National Champion Nebraska. Then smashed an unranked Notre Dame in the Fiesta Bowl.
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Re: Best team that didn't win anything important
« Reply #47 on: June 14, 2020, 10:44:01 PM »
Being at that 1998 N at Kstate game was pretty cool even if I wasn't pleased with the outcome or the missed face mask call which I could see from the last row of the end zone on the other end of the field.   Anyways, the atmosphere was as tense as any game I've ever attended, including multiple 1 v 2 games or similar huge games.    KSU hadn't  beaten Nebraska in 30 years, they had the better team, easily, and it was a very entertaining football game.  Back and forth, wild plays. Turnovers, etc.  It took the fans a long time getting the goalposts down but there was such euphoria in Manhattan that day.  I was really pulling for them in that equally crazy Bigxii game.
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Re: Best team that didn't win anything important
« Reply #48 on: June 15, 2020, 12:30:49 AM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on June 14, 2020, 09:34:22 PM
Won a division though? Are we counting that?

And it was a program that had not finished first in a conference or division since 1934. (I went back and rewatched chunks of that CCG. Just an insane game)
I don't think winning your division matters.  All it means is that you lost your CG.  It's like winning your heat in the 100m dash and finishing 4th in the final.  Who cares?
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Re: Best team that didn't win anything important
« Reply #49 on: June 15, 2020, 12:31:57 AM »
Quote from: iahawk15 on June 14, 2020, 10:41:23 PM

11-1, losing only to National Champion Nebraska. Then smashed an unranked Notre Dame in the Fiesta Bowl.
One of the two Fiesta Bowls ND didn't deserve to be in during that era.  Getting waxed by Oregon State was the other. 

That Beavers team makes this thread list, too.  They were in a 3-way tie as Pac-10 champs, but didn't go to the RB.  

Their best season in at least 50 years (and probably EVER) ended in a Fiesta Bowl win over that undeserving ND team.  They beat a top-10 USC team and top-5 Oregon rival, but fell 3 points short vs Washington (RB rep that year).

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Re: Best team that didn't win anything important
« Reply #50 on: June 15, 2020, 12:36:32 AM »
B1G and PAC fans can help me with this - pre-CG era, if your team was technically conference co-champs, but didn't go to the Rose Bowl, did you consider yourselves champs?  

I wouldn't.
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Re: Best team that didn't win anything important
« Reply #51 on: June 15, 2020, 08:00:08 AM »
Hmm, I recall being told repeatedly that the Co-Big Ten Champs were going to knock off Nebraska in that Alamo Bowl some time ago.  I dont know if this was my chippy NW friend trying to measure an appendage or what.    I bet the answer is, it depends who you ask.
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Re: Best team that didn't win anything important
« Reply #52 on: June 15, 2020, 08:12:24 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on June 15, 2020, 12:36:32 AM
B1G and PAC fans can help me with this - pre-CG era, if your team was technically conference co-champs, but didn't go to the Rose Bowl, did you consider yourselves champs? 

I wouldn't.
I can't speak for everyone else, but when the rules stipulated that if 2 teams tied for the Big 10 Championship, the team that most recently went to the Rose Bowl was ineligible, sure I would consider that a conference title. The fact that they were not going to the Rose Bowl had nothing to do with the results on the field, but simply a rule that they had not power to change.
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Re: Best team that didn't win anything important
« Reply #53 on: June 15, 2020, 08:17:30 AM »
I think co-championships are a real thing.  The bowl aspect is akin to a participation trophy IMHO, not something won on the field.

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Re: Best team that didn't win anything important
« Reply #54 on: June 15, 2020, 10:04:10 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on June 15, 2020, 12:36:32 AM
B1G and PAC fans can help me with this - pre-CG era, if your team was technically conference co-champs, but didn't go to the Rose Bowl, did you consider yourselves champs? 

I wouldn't.
Yes. Although we were only co-champs once during the time I followed Purdue and we *did* go to the Rose Bowl that year, split championships were common enough in the pre-CCG era that I think all teams' fans considered themselves champs if they tied for it. 

We see it as well in basketball, where regular season conference championships matter as much, if not more, to Big Ten fans than BTT championships. And there are split championships in basketball regularly, but we count those.
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Re: Best team that didn't win anything important
« Reply #55 on: June 15, 2020, 10:18:37 AM »
Huskers and Sooners were co champs a few times back in the old Big 8

but, neither team considered the co championship worthy because  the head to head winner grabbed the glory
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