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Topic: Best team that didn't win anything important

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OrangeAfroMan

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Re: Best team that didn't win anything important
« Reply #28 on: June 06, 2020, 10:43:32 PM »
Both of those OSU teams won a share of the Big Ten title, rendering them ineligible in accordance to the criteria that YOU authored.


Yeah, I was just sharing, not nominating.  For shame!
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Re: Best team that didn't win anything important
« Reply #29 on: June 06, 2020, 10:44:07 PM »
Here's a good one from the first team I liked.

2004 Cal.

Top 10 in scoring offense and defense. Second in the country in yards per play. Had a 2,000-yard back, and the backup was MarShawn Lynch, who averaged 8.8 a carry. At QB, Aaron Rodgers, who was fire the first half of the year, but tailed off (his receivers were college good). Defense was excellent until the bowl.

The schedule was more balanced than good at the top. Still, No. 15 by college football reference. They held national champion USC to 4.1 yards per play, but three fumbles led to a 23-17 loss, the only one of the regular season.

They were competing with Texas for the last BCS bowl spot (Rose Bowl), but Mack Brown politics the 'Horns in (their schedule was slightly worse). Cal was No. 4 in both the final two polls, but the computers hurt Cal and the votes are just close enough Bears sleepwalk into the bowl. They go up 14-7, allow 24 points in a row and can never get back in it. Sonny Cumbie threw for 520 yards in that game, which contributes to dropping Cal's yards per play defense from what would've been fourth nationally to 42nd.

So they miss a conference title and a BCS slot and slip from No. 4 in the final polls with the bowl loss.

(Two years later, Cal goes 9-3, gets Jeff Tedford's only conference title, one it shares with USC when the Trojans blow a national title game spot on the last game of the season. Cal is not all that good and lost 23-9 to USC, a game that was 9-9 at the end of the third quarter and probably still not all that competitive).
We did an NCAA 05 dynasty in my college house, and rolled a dice to determine which conference.  We rolled Pac 10, and agreed nobody could be USC.  I got Cal and DESTROYED everyone.  I think JJ Arrington was the backup RB.  I barely used Aaron.

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Re: Best team that didn't win anything important
« Reply #30 on: June 06, 2020, 10:48:16 PM »
Arrington was the starter, Lynch was the backup.

I'm surprised no one has mentioned 2012 OSU here.  
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Re: Best team that didn't win anything important
« Reply #31 on: June 06, 2020, 11:16:29 PM »
Arrington was the starter, Lynch was the backup.

I'm surprised no one has mentioned 2012 OSU here. 
They are ineligible by virtue of winning their division that year. 
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Re: Best team that didn't win anything important
« Reply #32 on: June 06, 2020, 11:29:06 PM »
Arrington was the starter, Lynch was the backup.

I'm surprised no one has mentioned 2012 OSU here. 
I felt like a lot of folks didn't like that team so much?

The defense was a mess in the middle of the year. They were weirdly close with Cal, MSU, IU, kinda UCF. Went to OT with Purdue and a Wisconsin team that was bad at offense. 

It did have the awesome Hyde-Miller backfield and a sorta so-so passing game. (I might be wrong, but Miller felt like a guy whose passing numbers got better while people's feeling about his passing potential got worse. It was a while ago)

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Re: Best team that didn't win anything important
« Reply #33 on: June 06, 2020, 11:32:17 PM »
Yeah Musberger did like to really emphasize the A.J. in "A.J. Hawk"
You mean the same guy that said POS was the best linebacker in the big ten?  I remember Musburger. :)

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Re: Best team that didn't win anything important
« Reply #34 on: June 06, 2020, 11:54:05 PM »
The Musberger drinking game lives on!

Not sure what you could do with current announcers.  Drink every time they go off script?  You'd never drink

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Re: Best team that didn't win anything important
« Reply #35 on: June 07, 2020, 12:08:07 AM »
We did an NCAA 05 dynasty in my college house, and rolled a dice to determine which conference.  We rolled Pac 10, and agreed nobody could be USC.  I got Cal and DESTROYED everyone.  I think JJ Arrington was the backup RB.  I barely used Aaron.
He backed up Adimchinobi Echemandu the year prior. Echemandu was an objectively good college back. Not like really good, but good. A little limited, but powerful. 

That year, Rodgers beat out a junior named Reggie Robertson, who was actually pretty good. He closed out the upset of USC and threw two passes the rest of the year. These days, he woulda been a nice grad transfer. 

(This now has me down a rabbit hole when Kyle Boller and Joe Igbar helped put up 46 in EL during the last Bobby Williams year. MSU lost five turnovers to a not great Cal defense. Cal turned around and gave up nearly 300 rushing yards to Air Force. Bears were on bowl probation for some reason that year)

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Re: Best team that didn't win anything important
« Reply #36 on: June 07, 2020, 01:04:14 AM »
For Oklahoma, 2009.
Most of the 2008 team that lost the BCC championship to Florida 24-14 was back.  Heisman Trophy-winner Sam Bradford was back.
Bradford got knocked out of the 1st game, a neutral-site game at JerryWorld, with a separated shoulder, and OU lost 14-13.  Missed a makeable FG at the end that would have won it.

With Landry Jones at QB, the Sooners blew out Idaho State and Tulsa 64-0 and 45-0.

Lost to Miami 21-20.  I can't remember exactly how, but lack of a good place kicker was again part of the problem.

So, 2-2.

Beat Baylor 33-7.

Sam Bradford was back for the RRS, but he got knocked out again, and this time it was for the season.  Sooners lost to Texas 16-13.  Semi-late, they got a pick that should have been for six, but incredibly the DB let QB Colt McCoy come out of nowhere and tackle him.

Beat the two Kansas teams, then played Nebraska in Lincoln.  OU dominated all the stats except rushing yards, but lost 10-3.  It seems like we were inside the 20 about 15 times (it was probably about 3), but had to go for it (and fail) on 4th down because Bob Stoops didn't trust our kicker for anything but a chip-shot.  Oh, 5 INTs didn't help.

So, 5-4.

Beat Texas A&M 65-10.

Then had a total letdown and lost to Texas Tech in Lubbock (where Bob Stoops often had problems) 41-13.

So, 6-5.

Beat Oklahoma State 27-0 to close out the regular season, then beat Stanford in the Sun Bowl 31-27.

8-5, and four of the losses were hugely affected by the lack of a decent FG kicker.  Woulda/shoulda/coulda been a lot better.  That was Bob's last really good defense.
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Re: Best team that didn't win anything important
« Reply #37 on: June 08, 2020, 02:10:17 AM »
2010 Alabama. Injuries and complacency did this team in. But that’s arguably one of the most talented overall rosters I’ve ever seen at bama, maybe anywhere in cfb. 

On defense, you had:
Dee milliner 
Mark baron
Hightower
Dre Kirkpatrick 
Nico Johnson
Marcel dareus 
Josh Chapman
Upshaw
CJ Mosley

On offense you had:
Julio
Ingram
Trent Richardson 
Eddie lacy
Chance warmack
Barrett Jones 
Vlachos
Carpenter
Fluker

The amount of talent on this team is insane for them to not have won anything. When finally healthy they showed what they could do vs MSU in the bowl game. 

2013 bama could also make list. Still say that team competes with FSU in title game. 

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Re: Best team that didn't win anything important
« Reply #38 on: June 08, 2020, 06:31:04 AM »
Arrington was the starter, Lynch was the backup.

I'm surprised no one has mentioned 2012 OSU here. 
For a team that could have won a national championship if Gene Smith hadn't stupidly wanted to go to a bowl game the year before, they weren't actually all that good.

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Re: Best team that didn't win anything important
« Reply #39 on: June 08, 2020, 06:37:10 AM »
The Musberger drinking game lives on!

Not sure what you could do with current announcers.  Drink every time they go off script?  You'd never drink

I don't know what lab they find these robots in but I wish they'd find a new one.  Man I miss Musburger.  

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Re: Best team that didn't win anything important
« Reply #40 on: June 08, 2020, 01:49:34 PM »
Ever since he started jerkin' it to A.J. McCarron's girlfriend on air, it's been downhill for him.
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Re: Best team that didn't win anything important
« Reply #41 on: June 08, 2020, 01:53:52 PM »
For a team that could have won a national championship if Gene Smith hadn't stupidly wanted to go to a bowl game the year before, they weren't actually all that good.
The saddest part is they could've won a title, but it would've been because there were two undefeated teams that no one thought were all that good. OSU-ND with a so-so OSU defense and so-so ND offense. 

I'm actually kinda thankful to Gene, lord help me. 

 

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