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OrangeAfroMan

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Re: Best Team from Playoff Era
« Reply #70 on: December 20, 2022, 07:49:20 AM »
Every future 12th seed.
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Re: Best Team from Playoff Era
« Reply #71 on: December 20, 2022, 07:52:26 AM »
The 12 seed won't even be the worst team that season, let alone the entire era. 
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Re: Best Team from Playoff Era
« Reply #72 on: December 20, 2022, 09:30:00 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on December 20, 2022, 05:30:23 AM
I guess I figure these fantasy match-ups are taking place on a random Tuesday in October vs "okay, you just won the NC, now go play the '95 Huskers" type of thing. 
I wonder what dictates that idea in us.
I'm still not cornvinced the 95 Huskers could beat the 71 Huskers

Rich Glover had 22 tackles (19 unassisted) and knocked down the 4th down pass attempt by Jack Mildren to ice In the Game of the Century. He played with 1971 Outland Trophy winner Husker teammate Larry Jacobson.
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Re: Best Team from Playoff Era
« Reply #73 on: December 20, 2022, 10:32:39 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on December 20, 2022, 09:30:00 AM
I'm still not cornvinced the 95 Huskers could beat the 71 Huskers

Rich Glover had 22 tackles (19 unassisted) and knocked down the 4th down pass attempt by Jack Mildren to ice In the Game of the Century. He played with 1971 Outland Trophy winner Husker teammate Larry Jacobson.
bruh....they'd kill them. football athletes in 1995 were bigger, stronger, faster on the whole than they were in 1971.
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Re: Best Team from Playoff Era
« Reply #74 on: December 20, 2022, 10:45:24 AM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on December 20, 2022, 10:32:39 AM
bruh....they'd kill them. football athletes in 1995 were bigger, stronger, faster on the whole than they were in 1971.
First, you are right. An example:

I own a DVD of Ohio State's 1969 (1968 season) Rose Bowl win over USC. USC was the defending National Champion and had a Heisman winner at RB (you may have heard of him, OJ something). This was a #1 vs #2 game which was exceedingly rare back then. My point is that these were two REALLY good teams.

When I first watched the game I expected the crude broadcast technology but what shocked me was the sizes of the players. Unlike today, they were all normal-sized humans. That amazed me. 

That said, I think when we do these comparisons across eras, there has to be an understood (even if unstated) understanding that we are comparing relative to the era.
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Re: Best Team from Playoff Era
« Reply #75 on: December 20, 2022, 11:05:44 AM »
Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on December 20, 2022, 10:45:24 AM
That said, I think when we do these comparisons across eras, there has to be an understood (even if unstated) understanding that we are comparing relative to the era.
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Suh never had a game like Rich Glover.
and he didn't have another Outland Trophy winner next to him (although Jared Crick wasn't chopped liver)
Suh might not have ever faced an offense as good as the 71 Sooners
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Re: Best Team from Playoff Era
« Reply #76 on: December 20, 2022, 11:28:24 AM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on December 20, 2022, 10:32:39 AM
bruh....they'd kill them. football athletes in 1995 were bigger, stronger, faster on the whole than they were in 1971.
So, I agree with that and I think most would.  But if we go 24 years the other way do we think the 2019 LSU team would just physically overwhelm the 95 Huskers?  I don’t.  I think they might beat them but I don’t think it would be a physical mismatch like I imagine the ‘95 and ‘71 teams might be.

I just wonder at what point we started seeing big differences in the size, strength, and speed of players and if we are near our cap on how big, fast, and strong athletes can get now.
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Re: Best Team from Playoff Era
« Reply #77 on: December 20, 2022, 12:38:26 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on December 20, 2022, 10:32:39 AM
bruh....they'd kill them. football athletes in 1995 were bigger, stronger, faster on the whole than they were in 1971.
We all know this.  So it's about how good they'd rate vs peers. 
If we're giving players a 0-100 scale, Glover is like a 98 and Jared Tomich is maybe a 93.  So maybe the '71 Huskers have a better average player rating than '95, idk.  That would require a deep dive.
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It would be fun, though, to see a modern defense vs. the single-wing for a quarter.  Halfbacks passing left and right, all the deception, etc.  
'45 Army's QB had only 1 more pass attempt than Heisman HB Glenn Davis.  And neither of them led the team, lol.
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Re: Best Team from Playoff Era
« Reply #78 on: December 20, 2022, 01:11:52 PM »
I may have rethink what I said previously. The 95 Huskers didn’t have one guy listed at 300 pounds. That really surprised me.  

2019 LSU had 17 guys listed at over 300. 
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Re: Best Team from Playoff Era
« Reply #79 on: December 20, 2022, 01:12:48 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on December 20, 2022, 12:38:26 PM
We all know this.  So it's about how good they'd rate vs peers. 
If we're giving players a 0-100 scale, Glover is like a 98 and Jared Tomich is maybe a 93.  So maybe the '71 Huskers have a better average player rating than '95, idk.  That would require a deep dive.
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It would be fun, though, to see a modern defense vs. the single-wing for a quarter.  Halfbacks passing left and right, all the deception, etc. 
'45 Army's QB had only 1 more pass attempt than Heisman HB Glenn Davis.  And neither of them led the team, lol.
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Re: Best Team from Playoff Era
« Reply #80 on: December 20, 2022, 01:16:31 PM »
If we're looking vs. the field of peers then I nominate 1908 LSU.  Outscored opponents 442 - 11 on the season. 

Suck it, '95 Huskers. 

I mean, yeah, they had never heard of a "playoff" but they'd have totally won it even though Alabama would've gotten a redo.  
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Re: Best Team from Playoff Era
« Reply #81 on: December 20, 2022, 01:28:16 PM »
Quote from: Kris60 on December 20, 2022, 01:11:52 PM
I may have rethink what I said previously. The 95 Huskers didn’t have one guy listed at 300 pounds. That really surprised me. 

just seemed that way watching them steamroll Spurrier's gators
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Re: Best Team from Playoff Era
« Reply #82 on: December 20, 2022, 06:04:50 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on December 20, 2022, 01:28:16 PM
just seemed that way watching them steamroll Spurrier's gators
Since that day:
Nebraska is 210-119 (.638), good for 21st in the country, with 1 NC (1997).
Florida is 236-96 (.711), good for 7th in the country, with 3 NCs (1996, 2006, 2008).
So hang onto that Tommie Frazier highlight, boys!  :88:
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*it's really 22nd and 8th, respectively, but I refuse to include Boise State in any of this.  Twelve years of a high school schedule doesn't a helmet program make!
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Re: Best Team from Playoff Era
« Reply #83 on: December 20, 2022, 06:41:46 PM »
I'll hang on to it

the 70's, 80's, and 90's is all I got

but hey, those were also my glory daze

very fortunate to enjoy that run while it lasted

born in 62, same season Devaney arrived and the sellout streak started

student at UNL from 1981-1984

season ticket holder from 1981-1991

attended the 94 Orange (loss to Charlie Ward, the 95 Orange (win over the Canes), 96 Fiesta (win over Spurrier), the 2002 Rose (loss to the Canes)

from 1962-current Stassen says the Huskers are #5 in winning percentage.  #4 if you refuse to include Boise State

I can die a happy man
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