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Gonzaga basketball = Boise State football

Gonzaga basketball is way better.  They've made runs toward a national title, including a Final 4.  Boise State won a couple of exhibition games they got into as the tallest midget.

Illinois might not be as consistently good as Purdue, but they seem to have the higher ceiling. Some of those Bill Self teams were ridiculously star studded. 

Gonzaga basketball is way better.  They've made runs toward a national title, including a Final 4.  Boise State won a couple of exhibition games they got into as the tallest midget.

Gonzaga basketball got equal footing every year in March.  The football team was routinely left out of the party.
Anyone who runs a lot of time-frame 'best record' searches would agree with me.  There's Boise, in the top 3 every time, mucking up your data.

It's hard to compare, because Boise doesn't have a way to play themselves in.  But aside from those January 1 exhibition wins, what have they really done in like a decade?  They've just been a consistently great mid-major, who has failed to step up to any more.  College basketball has those types.  VCU and San Diego State come to mind.  Consistently top end mid majors, who peak as a top 10-15ish team, but Gonzaga can go toe to toe with anyone, in recruiting too.

The problem with a team like Boise is that they can't establish credibility to get a seat at the table because they haven't won anything. But the reason they don't have an opportunity to prove that they CAN win anything is that they're not given a seat at the table. Which because they haven't won anything is then used as an excuse to never give them a seat at the table. 

Self-fulfilling prophecy. 

Especially when you refer to those "January 1 exhibition wins" and guys like OAM discount those wins because clearly Alabama just wasn't motivated that day. So even when they DO win something, people say they've won nothing. 

I agree.  And FTR, I'm for an 8 team model where that best Go5 team gets a bid.

But really it's been a minute.  They beat a 10-4 Arizona team in the Fiesta Bowl 6 years ago.

Is that their best win over a P5 team in the past decade?  Seems like they were on the cusp there in like 2011, but then they've whiffed a little bit since.

The shine came off, to be sure. Once they lost Petersen it faded. 

Gonzaga has had Mark Few for over 20 years now... He could probably have nearly any job he wanted, but I suppose he's happy doing what he's doing. 

Aw yes.

The Illini's Larry Coker, minus the NC.

It’s hard to make that comparison when a school has never won a NC. I’m not a big Weber fan but he took them further than anyone else has.

Especially when you refer to those "January 1 exhibition wins" and guys like OAM discount those wins because clearly Alabama just wasn't motivated that day. So even when they DO win something, people say they've won nothing.

Hey, I wasn't the one who pitted Boise vs TCU that one year.  That was messed up, and everyone knew it.