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Topic: Best Illinois team ever?

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Cincydawg

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Re: Best Illinois team ever?
« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2022, 09:08:51 AM »
Maybe Illinois can make some noise when they are decent, catch some breaks, and their schedule is mostly pastries and mediocre teams?

One might ask what was their most impressive win?

Ever.

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Re: Best Illinois team ever?
« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2022, 09:21:13 AM »
One might ask what was their most impressive win?

Ever.
2007 at #1 OSU?

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Re: Best Illinois team ever?
« Reply #16 on: November 05, 2022, 09:57:51 AM »
Yeah, maybe, though a big upset might not be the most impressive win.  I was more thinking of when they had a very good team and beat another very good team soundly, but OSU 2007 is probably that anyway.  They did beat #5 Wisconsin that year at home also.

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Re: Best Illinois team ever?
« Reply #17 on: November 05, 2022, 10:17:08 AM »
2007 at #1 OSU?
Has to be. 

For comparison Ohio State has NEVER defeated #1 on the road and Ohio State obviously has a lot more history of success than Illinois. The closest thing to a road win over #1 that Ohio State has is beating #1 Bama in NOLA:
  • Over UW in Columbus, 1952.
  • Over PU in Columbus, 1968
  • Over Iowa in Columbus, 1985
  • Over MiamiFl in Tempe, 2002/03
  • Over Bama in NOLA, 2014/15


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Re: Best Illinois team ever?
« Reply #18 on: November 05, 2022, 10:36:42 AM »
Obviously, teams ranked #1 at the time get beat at home on occasion, I wonder if many ranked #1 at EOS lost at home.  Probably a few.


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Re: Best Illinois team ever?
« Reply #19 on: November 05, 2022, 11:09:25 AM »
I like Cincy's point - upsetting #1 from out of nowhere is an impressive win, but there weren't especially high stakes going in.
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Very often, usually by teams that aren't used to being there, a team will overachieve and the moment they play a game with lots of hooplah, they fold and fold hard (see Illinois, 2001).  
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Looking at their 3 most recent 'good' years (01, 89, 83)...
2001 - as soon as they enter the top 25, trounced by ranked Michigan
beat Purdue in a 20ish vs 20ish ranked matchup
trounced by LSU in the Sugar Bowl, despite being ranked higher
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1989 - actually beat #5 USC in the opener, but was only ranked 22, so while this counts, it was really just an upset
the very next week, top 10 matchup with Colorado, gets drilled 38-7
later in the year, back up in the top 10, vs #3 UM, loses by 2 TDs
won their bowl in a 11 vs 15 matchup vs UVA
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1983 - loses opener, but beats the shit out of #4 Iowa, 33-0 as unranked team (random big upset)
Ranked 19th, beats #6 OSU - another upset, but getting warmer
Here's the game we're probably looking for:  #9 Illinois over #8 UM by 10.  
Won the rest of their games before getting curb-stomped by a bad UCLA (as previously mentioned upthread)
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So I guess the "answer" in terms of the modern game is  9 vs 8 win in 1983.  A relatively high-stakes game going in, with Illinois winning.
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Re: Best Illinois team ever?
« Reply #20 on: November 05, 2022, 11:22:08 AM »
One might ask what was their most impressive win?

Ever.
2007 at #1 OSU?
 I watched that Game,Juice Williams
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Re: Best Illinois team ever?
« Reply #21 on: November 05, 2022, 07:23:54 PM »
The 1923 Illinois team led in part by Bob Zuppke who coached some very fine Illinois teams, and led on the field by Red Grange is almost certainly the best Illinois team of all time.
The 1923 Fighting Illini were retroactively voted mythical national champions after an 8-0 season by several entities, and by Jeff Sagarin rankings, after outscoring opponents 136-20.

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Re: Best Illinois team ever?
« Reply #22 on: November 05, 2022, 08:13:59 PM »
Grange is interesting.  His legend is largely based on one amazing quarter in a game vs Michigan in 1924.  The rest of his career was much more ordinary than I expected.  
He was good, of course, and he had an inordinate number of long TD plays.  
And while he had a monster game vs Penn in 1925, his total yardage in that 1 game was about half his entire season production.  
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The media's fixation on "broken field" runners probably was born of Grange's exploits, and they specified and valued those types of players for decades to come.  He was great, but his college career was varied.
1923 - great overall team
1924 - Grange with a great season, legendary quarter vs UM
1925 - average team, Grange with 1 monster game, ordinary stats otherwise

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Re: Best Illinois team ever?
« Reply #23 on: November 05, 2022, 09:23:51 PM »
Points for playing a bad MSU team close?

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Re: Best Illinois team ever?
« Reply #24 on: November 05, 2022, 11:17:10 PM »
Grange is interesting.  His legend is largely based on one amazing quarter in a game vs Michigan in 1924.  The rest of his career was much more ordinary than I expected. 
He was good, of course, and he had an inordinate number of long TD plays. 
And while he had a monster game vs Penn in 1925, his total yardage in that 1 game was about half his entire season production. 
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The media's fixation on "broken field" runners probably was born of Grange's exploits, and they specified and valued those types of players for decades to come.  He was great, but his college career was varied.


Grange also had a long career in broadcasting from 1934-69 which included college football, and Bears games

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Re: Best Illinois team ever?
« Reply #25 on: November 06, 2022, 08:56:34 AM »
Congrats to 'Fro for putting a curse on Bert.
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Re: Best Illinois team ever?
« Reply #26 on: November 06, 2022, 12:22:00 PM »
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