header pic

Perhaps the BEST B1G Forum anywhere, here at College Football Fan Site, CFB51!!!

The 'Old' CFN/Scout Crowd- Enjoy Civil discussion, game analytics, in depth player and coaching 'takes' and discussing topics surrounding the game. You can even have your own free board, all you have to do is ask!!!

Anyone is welcomed and encouraged to join our FREE site and to take part in our community- a community with you- the user, the fan, -and the person- will be protected from intrusive actions and with a clean place to interact.


Author

Topic: Best #22

 (Read 4083 times)

OrangeAfroMan

  • Stats Porn
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 18855
  • Liked:
Best #22
« on: June 27, 2018, 05:11:10 AM »
Good luck.  Happy hunting.  College only.  Safety first.  Vote to see results.
“The Swamp is where Gators live.  We feel comfortable there, but we hope our opponents feel tentative. A swamp is hot and sticky and can be dangerous." - Steve Spurrier

utee94

  • Global Moderator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 17678
  • Liked:
Re: Best #22
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2018, 08:16:05 AM »
Man, Bobby Lane was something special in his time.  But there are a lot of names on this list that have likely eclipsed him.  Gonna take some thought, but I'm glad you included him, he at least deserves a mention.

For some of these I've really got to go back and separate their college careers from their pro careers, Emmitt Smith being a prime example.  I recall him being very good in coilege, but my impression of his overall achievement is definitely affected by his fantastic pro career.


OrangeAfroMan

  • Stats Porn
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 18855
  • Liked:
Re: Best #22
« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2018, 10:10:49 AM »
Emmitt had a big FR year, hurt as a SOPH (still over 900 yds), then a huge JR year and left early.  Rhett overtook him as Florida's all-time leading rusher, but played/started an extra season.  

Still owns the single season and single game rushing record at UF, though.  
“The Swamp is where Gators live.  We feel comfortable there, but we hope our opponents feel tentative. A swamp is hot and sticky and can be dangerous." - Steve Spurrier

ELA

  • Global Moderator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 20328
  • Liked:
Re: Best #22
« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2018, 10:18:34 AM »
The "by my eyes" is crushing me here.  The most ordinary RB to win the Heisman in my lifetime vs. a very good, but not close to generational CB, over a bunch of probably more deserving choices.

utee94

  • Global Moderator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 17678
  • Liked:
Re: Best #22
« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2018, 10:57:45 AM »
That's what I vaguely recall about Emmitt's career.  I definitely remember his injured soph season but him still being able to produce.

Knowing what he meant to my favorite NFL team is making it hard for me to be objective here.   Not that objectivity is necessarily called for here. :)

I'll have to continue to think about it.

MarqHusker

  • Team Captain
  • *******
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 5507
  • Liked:
Re: Best #22
« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2018, 01:18:36 PM »
I too like seeing some of the older names on this list, but I didn't hesitate in voting for Flutie.  He was a lot more than a Hail Mary (and that awesome skit on SNL where they melted his Heisman).

OrangeAfroMan

  • Stats Porn
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 18855
  • Liked:
Re: Best #22
« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2018, 04:51:15 PM »
I find we really do put a ceiling on guys who don't break through and win a Heisman.  

Justice here, and #5 Darren McFadden finished 2nd in the voting twice each, but aren't up on that pedestal as if they each had one bigger season and had that trophy to show for it.  I could argue McFadden's career at Arkansas was better than Bo's at Auburn, but the consensus isn't nearly that.  
“The Swamp is where Gators live.  We feel comfortable there, but we hope our opponents feel tentative. A swamp is hot and sticky and can be dangerous." - Steve Spurrier

ELA

  • Global Moderator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 20328
  • Liked:
Re: Best #22
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2018, 05:00:57 PM »
I find we really do put a ceiling on guys who don't break through and win a Heisman.  

Justice here, and #5 Darren McFadden finished 2nd in the voting twice each, but aren't up on that pedestal as if they each had one bigger season and had that trophy to show for it.  I could argue McFadden's career at Arkansas was better than Bo's at Auburn, but the consensus isn't nearly that.  
Should be interesting then as we soon (I assume) are more or less done with Heisman winners?

OrangeAfroMan

  • Stats Porn
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 18855
  • Liked:
Re: Best #22
« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2018, 10:21:44 PM »
A lot of the old-timer guys had wacky numbers, so they'll still pop up, including many in the 30s.  This should stay pretty juicy into the mid 30s, pick back up in the low 40s, and then get pretty stale through the 50s and 60s.

If I live that long.
“The Swamp is where Gators live.  We feel comfortable there, but we hope our opponents feel tentative. A swamp is hot and sticky and can be dangerous." - Steve Spurrier

Entropy

  • Starter
  • *****
  • Posts: 1432
  • Liked:
Re: Best #22
« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2018, 10:29:03 AM »
imo.. the vote is for Flutie or Smith.  I went with Smith.   Not sure there is a wrong answer between the 2

OrangeAfroMan

  • Stats Porn
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 18855
  • Liked:
Re: Best #22
« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2018, 06:52:18 PM »
I really wish it was easier for people to only consider college play.  If Flutie had gone on to become the NFL leader in passing yardage and Smith wound up in Canada, I don't think the vote would be nearly as close.
“The Swamp is where Gators live.  We feel comfortable there, but we hope our opponents feel tentative. A swamp is hot and sticky and can be dangerous." - Steve Spurrier

FearlessF

  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 37537
  • Liked:
Re: Best #22
« Reply #11 on: June 29, 2018, 04:22:29 PM »
glad I'm not the only one to vote Bobby Lane

no Lynn Swann?
"Courage; Generosity; Fairness; Honor; In these are the true awards of manly sport."

OrangeAfroMan

  • Stats Porn
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 18855
  • Liked:
Re: Best #22
« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2018, 08:11:15 PM »
Shyt.  Totally forgot him.  Do you think he's worth re-doing the whole vote?  
“The Swamp is where Gators live.  We feel comfortable there, but we hope our opponents feel tentative. A swamp is hot and sticky and can be dangerous." - Steve Spurrier

FearlessF

  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 37537
  • Liked:
Re: Best #22
« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2018, 08:26:19 PM »
nope

but, he may have been worthy of mention - doubt he'd get many votes
"Courage; Generosity; Fairness; Honor; In these are the true awards of manly sport."

 

Support the Site!
Purchase of every item listed here DIRECTLY supports the site.