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Cincydawg

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Re: Best #21
« Reply #28 on: August 24, 2018, 12:37:23 PM »
That is the question.  Of course, Herschel was 225 lbs running against 180 pound safeties and 220 pound LBs.

Barkely was up against folks akin to Roquan Smith, 

UGA had a nice rotation set up.  Imagine all those carries were given to Chubb (and he stayed healthy).  Do you think his YPC might go down?  I do.

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« Reply #29 on: August 24, 2018, 12:43:15 PM »
I'm a Michigan homer. Desmond is deserving of a vote if not for a guy named....Barry Sanders.

This isn't even close. Barry Sanders is the greatest RB to ever a touch a football in college or pro. People who argue this are just biased or stupid, in my opinion.

Simply put- the guy could do things that no other player could do. Before or since. Period. Truly one of a kind. His ability as a runner was unparalleled. Unmatched in history. NOBODY had that kind of ability. I don't care if he started for one season. That one season was the greatest in the history of the sport. People act like he should've started day one- well he had a college and NFL HOF RB ahead of him in Thurman Thomas when he got to Oklahoma State. Talk about the greatest RB duo in college ever.
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Re: Best #21
« Reply #30 on: August 24, 2018, 12:46:13 PM »
There was a drought of sorts in the NFL draft of running backs, but in the past 3-4 years we've seen some stellar RBs coming out.

And there are some still in college that look stellar also.
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Re: Best #21
« Reply #31 on: August 24, 2018, 12:56:15 PM »
Statistically, the "best duo of running backs" in terms of career yardage just graduated and were drafted.

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Re: Best #21
« Reply #32 on: August 24, 2018, 01:00:10 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on August 24, 2018, 12:56:15 PM
Statistically, the "best duo of running backs" in terms of career yardage just graduated and were drafted.
Lol.
Bet neither of them ends up in the NFL hall of fame.
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Re: Best #21
« Reply #33 on: August 24, 2018, 01:04:33 PM »
Few end up in the HoF.  I think Sony Michel will do pretty well.  Chubb could with a good OL, but ...

It's a surprising stat for some that they put up so much yardage in college together.
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Re: Best #21
« Reply #34 on: August 24, 2018, 01:08:36 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on August 24, 2018, 01:04:33 PM
Few end up in the HoF.  I think Sony Michel will do pretty well.  Chubb could with a good OL, but ...

It's a surprising stat for some that they put up so much yardage in college together.
Michel's knee is bone on bone. He won't last long in the NFL most likely. Pats will get a few big years out of him and then he'll probably get cut a year or two early because that's what Belichik does.
Chubb plays for the Browns. Poor guy.
Yeah, no denying they were great in college together.
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Re: Best #21
« Reply #35 on: August 24, 2018, 03:23:52 PM »
speaking of the Browns

surprising line in vegas is the Browns as 66-1 odds of winning the super bowl

could you all please each lend me a few bucks?  I'd like to amass 66 million to send to Vegas sports book, so that when the Browns are eliminated from winning the Super Bowl, the book will cut me a check for a cool mill.

I would think the line should be 660-1 for the Browns
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Re: Best #21
« Reply #36 on: August 24, 2018, 04:18:22 PM »
I had not heard about Michel's knee, tough break, so to speak.

Broken bones are not much of an issue in football these days it seems to me, the odd foot bone.

I pitched a game with a broken bone in my hand, left hand, couldn't grip the bat but could throw.

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Re: Best #21
« Reply #37 on: August 24, 2018, 06:59:42 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on August 24, 2018, 11:59:39 AM
you don't believe in OrangeAfro's silly opinion that any RB's average will go down as number of carries goes up?
If my opinion is silly, then so is the entire field of statistics and probability.
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Re: Best #21
« Reply #38 on: August 24, 2018, 07:04:02 PM »
Best RB duos tend to degrade into ______ - amazing all-time guy and whoever his backup happened to be.  You'd take Barry Sanders and Player X over Chubb and Michel, because it would make sense to.




The better method would simply see who was the best/most productive backup RB ever, and go with that.  Some off the top of my head:
Bo Jackson/Fulwood, mid-80s Auburn
Neal Anderson/John L. Williams, mid-80s Florida
TJ Duckett and whoever the other guy was - MSU late 90s
McFadden and Felix Jones at Arkansas (yes, Jones' ypc would decrease if given more carries, no matter what "type" they were)
Any number of Wisconsin duos/trios, a la Fletcher and Moss
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Re: Best #21
« Reply #39 on: August 24, 2018, 07:23:09 PM »
So, who was the best backup running back in CFB history?

I suppose you might have to add situations where he wasn't a backup because he was in the game with the head dude, like Sinkwich and Trippi.  Neither was a backup.

Michel was a backup except when Chubb was hurt, but of course backup doesn't mean what it meant way back when your One played the whole game unless it was a blowout.
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Re: Best #21
« Reply #40 on: August 24, 2018, 07:27:34 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on August 24, 2018, 07:04:02 PM

The better method would simply see who was the best/most productive backup RB ever, and go with that.  Some off the top of my head:

the pony express?
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Re: Best #21
« Reply #41 on: August 24, 2018, 07:30:18 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on August 24, 2018, 07:23:09 PM
So, who was the best backup running back in CFB history?
Barry Sanders backing up Thurman Thomas
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