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ELA

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Re: Most frequent OOC opponents of each B1G team
« Reply #14 on: June 20, 2018, 03:47:47 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on June 20, 2018, 03:38:00 PM
I'm surprised OSU and WVU haven't played more.
I can't think of a game that would be the absolute disaster that Ohio State travelling to Morgantown would be
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Re: Most frequent OOC opponents of each B1G team
« Reply #15 on: June 20, 2018, 04:00:08 PM »
It'd be fun to watch.

Not sure about the game though.
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Re: Most frequent OOC opponents of each B1G team
« Reply #16 on: June 20, 2018, 04:35:16 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on June 20, 2018, 01:56:36 PM
Stassen only counts games where both teams are upper-division, I believe.

Secondly, Nebraska's "OOC" games against Kansas really weren't OOC. Same goes for Maryland/Virginia, etc.
It is a little bit more complicated than that.  Stassen counts games were the team queried was upper division (by their definition which is a bit ambiguous).  Thus, for example, if you look at Ohio State's opponents you find:
  • 102 games, Illinois, 69-30-3
  • 101 games, Michigan, 50-47-4
But when you instead query Illinois and Michigan then look at games against Ohio State you get:
Illinois, vs Ohio State:
  • 103 games, 30-69-4
Michigan, vs Ohio State:
  • 114 games, 58-50-6

So Ohio State had a tie against Illinois when Ohio State was not "upper division".  Similarly, Ohio State had 11 losses and two ties with against Michigan when Ohio State was not "upper division".  

The real oddity of it is that according to Stassen Ohio State has a winning record against Michigan (50-47-4 in 101 games) and Michigan has a winning record against Ohio State (58-50-6 in 114 games).  

Obviously Nebraska's "OOC" games against Kansas were not OOC when played but I was looking at not currently in conference.  
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Re: Most frequent OOC opponents of each B1G team
« Reply #17 on: June 20, 2018, 04:40:32 PM »
Really wish ftbobs would have come through for us. We gave him everything he wanted and needed, except for the ultimate desire on his end, I guess.
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Re: Most frequent OOC opponents of each B1G team
« Reply #18 on: June 20, 2018, 04:41:47 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on June 20, 2018, 04:00:08 PM
It'd be fun to watch on TV.

Not sure about the game though.
Fixed it for you
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Re: Most frequent OOC opponents of each B1G team
« Reply #19 on: June 20, 2018, 04:44:12 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on June 20, 2018, 03:06:53 PM
Was Oho St vs Pitt ever a thing?  Seems like it could be.

Case???
RE tOSU vs Pitt:  It seems like either the two teams were not good at the same time very often or they didn't play when they were.  
In the first four games Pitt led 2-1-1 which is pretty competitive.  Those were spread out over eight years from 1929-1936. 
After that they played every year for 13 years from 1940-1952 then skipped a year and played again in 1954.  In those 14 games Ohio State went 12-2.  
Then they didn't play for 30 years.  
Then Ohio State beat Pitt in the 1984 (1983 season) Fiesta Bowl.  
Since then they have played six games (three at each school's home field).  In those six Ohio State is 5-1.  The loss and four of the five wins were blowouts with only Ohio State's win in 1985 being close.  
Case is a school in the Cleveland area.  In the VERY early days of college football they were a powerful team at least in Ohio.  
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Re: Most frequent OOC opponents of each B1G team
« Reply #20 on: June 20, 2018, 04:46:12 PM »
Nebraska's can be found here, easily

https://www.huskermax.com/allthegames.html
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Re: Most frequent OOC opponents of each B1G team
« Reply #21 on: June 20, 2018, 04:48:01 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on June 20, 2018, 01:32:47 PM
These numbers are very wrong.
http://grfx.cstv.com/schools/osu/graphics/pdf/m-footbl/17guide/2017FBMediaGuide_240-281_All-TimeResults.pdf
They've played Ohio Wesleyan 29 times and Oberlin 26 times.
If we are counting D3, then they've played Kenyon 23 times, Otterbein 18 times, Denison 17 times, Case Tech 23 times, Western Reserve 11 times (combined 34 for Case Western), Wittenberg 15 times, Wooster and Marietta 8 times each...
They've also played D1 Cincinnati 16 times. I think your source must only keep track of OSU's opponents after joining the Big Ten, which doesn't seem to be the case for the other noobs.
I knew when I posted and I guess I should have clarified that the source, Stassen omits portions of history when the queried team was not "upper division".  With ftbobs site no longer available I don't know where to go to get numbers like what you listed other than to look at each school's ancient history individually and I'm just not going to spend that much time on it.  
Aside from that, Ohio State's number of pre-leather-helmet games against schools that no longer exist, have merged with others, are no longer playing football, or are no longer playing D1 football is largely irrelevant, IMHO.  Still, I should have clarified the limitations in the OP.  
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Re: Most frequent OOC opponents of each B1G team
« Reply #22 on: June 20, 2018, 05:11:29 PM »
Quote from: ELA on June 20, 2018, 04:41:47 PM
Fixed it for you
I'd like to be there, at a safe distance.
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Re: Most frequent OOC opponents of each B1G team
« Reply #23 on: June 20, 2018, 05:55:41 PM »
Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on June 20, 2018, 04:48:01 PM
  
Aside from that, Ohio State's number of pre-leather-helmet games....  
I have a book about OSU FB in the Nineteenth Century, and they had a player that was concerned that he'd cut his hair too short, and it wouldn't provide enough padding!
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Re: Most frequent OOC opponents of each B1G team
« Reply #24 on: June 20, 2018, 06:04:20 PM »
Here's the last OSU @ WV game.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JbznViil3I
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1979, 81, 82, 84, 87, 94, 98
2001, 02, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19

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Re: Most frequent OOC opponents of each B1G team
« Reply #25 on: June 20, 2018, 06:04:41 PM »
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WWH: 1952, 54, 55, 57, 58, 60, 61, 62, 63, 65, 67, 68, 70, 72, 74, 75
1979, 81, 82, 84, 87, 94, 98
2001, 02, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19
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