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OrangeAfroMan

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Best #16
« on: June 19, 2018, 07:28:33 PM »
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Re: Best #16
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2018, 12:42:13 AM »
Chuck Long was an option QB in high school, believe it or not.

Bill Snyder (KSU's current coach) was Iowa's offensive coordinator, and deserves credit for Iowa's offensive prowess, and the development of Iowa's passing game in the early to mid-1980s. Hayden Fry was a QB, and deserves credit as well. Long was a diamond in the rough. He was not widely recruited. He averaged 5-6 passes per game in high school. Maybe it was his height. Iowa recruits many high school QBs to put them in other positions. Long is the only college player to play in 5 bowl games.
10,461 passing yards and 74 touchdowns on 782 completions.
Best completion percentage of any college quarterback all-time who attempted more than 1,000 career passes. First Big Ten player and second player in college football history to throw over 10,000 yards in a career.
I sat in the end zone at Camp Randall and watched him fire a pass from about the 15-yard line with a man wrapped around his ankles and I gasped as he threw into double coverage and a defender in-front who I thought surely would intercept deep in Iowa territory, and he completed it right in the bread basket for a first down. I saw him thread needles in the Peach Bowl against Tenessee. He is the most convincing college dropback passer I have seen.
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Re: Best #16
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2018, 09:48:57 AM »
From Wiki: Barrett accumulated more than 25 Ohio State records including most total yards in a season (3,851) and most touchdowns in a season (47) as well as most career passing yards (9,434) and completions (769). Additionally, he has several Big Ten Conference records including most career passing touchdowns (104) and total touchdowns (147) as well as he passed Drew Brees for most career offensive yards with 12,697.

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Re: Best #16
« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2018, 10:57:19 AM »
this one is tough...   a lot of quality names.  Brad Smith would have been a bigger national name on a different team.  He was quality.  But Manning was a stud in college.  Had to vote for him

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Re: Best #16
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2018, 12:08:17 PM »
Yup, I had to go with Manning as well.  But that's a strong list right there.

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« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2018, 04:57:56 PM »
went with Long

very impressive - took the closest at the time Heisman vote for Bo Jackson to get the trophy, and we ALL know Bo

sadly the Detroit Lions ruined the guy in the NFL
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Re: Best #16
« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2018, 05:07:01 PM »
went with Long

very impressive - took the closest at the time Heisman vote for Bo Jackson to get the trophy, and we ALL know Bo

sadly the Detroit Lions ruined the guy in the NFL
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He played for the Raiders, who ruin a lot of guys.

Or are you talking about Long? Detroit ruined a lot of guys too.
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« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2018, 06:09:06 PM »
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He played for the Raiders, who ruin a lot of guys.

Or are you talking about Long? Detroit ruined a lot of guys too.
I assumed he meant Long.
Lions had a solid run there of drafting guys with GREAT college careers who underachieved in the pros...Long, Ware, Peete, Harrington

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« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2018, 06:50:15 PM »
terrible O-Lines
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Re: Best #16
« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2018, 09:15:38 PM »
We cite Heisman voting in support of these guys...and we criticize Heisman voters for only awarding QBs and RBs.  I'm uber-critical of those voters, so citing who won or almost won doesn't hold much water with me.  

I didn't vote for either of them, but for me, Barrettt > Long

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« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2018, 09:37:26 PM »
terrible O-Lines
They had the makings of a good one with Lomas Brown and Kevin Glover.  Then the paralysis to Mike Utley and it all fell apart.  The fact Barry did what he did behind who he did it, I still can't believe.

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« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2018, 09:51:40 PM »
Billy Sims was pretty good behind those lines until his knee injury

another outstanding RB

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« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2018, 10:13:08 PM »
I just watched "A Football Life:  Barry Sanders" and when Bobby Ross became the coach, he installed a FB in the offense, and for 2 games, Sanders stunk.  When they reverted back to a 1-back offense, he flourished.

In the Emmitt vs Barry debate, the fact Emmitt ran behind a good blocking FB is always brought up in Sanders' favor....:38:
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« Reply #13 on: June 20, 2018, 10:37:41 PM »
much depends on the system

Adrian Peterson liked the I, liked to read the fullback's block

Barry didn't need the distraction

probably a good thing Barry didn't play for Switzer
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