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847badgerfan

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Re: B1G West, 2020
« Reply #56 on: December 26, 2019, 05:26:36 PM »
Definitely not jealousy for me. Very pleased with the man in charge for UW right now.
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Re: B1G West, 2020
« Reply #57 on: December 26, 2019, 08:02:45 PM »
Oh it's just some good natured ribbing.  I enjoy having personalities like him and Harbaugh in the conference.  
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Re: B1G West, 2020
« Reply #58 on: December 26, 2019, 09:18:25 PM »
Do you think Wisconsin has "maxed out"?  Or could they find themselves in the playoff realistically?  I know it's possible and their aim.  A Rose Bowl is a good result for them.
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Re: B1G West, 2020
« Reply #59 on: December 26, 2019, 11:44:16 PM »
I think if BAylor and Minnesota can have 10 win seasons, Wisconsin can certainly have a few things fall their way and make the playoff with a conference championship

like, you know, Ohio St. is on probation
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Re: B1G West, 2020
« Reply #60 on: December 27, 2019, 07:52:54 AM »
I can see Wisconsin going 12-0 if the schedule breaks in their favor fairly easily (like one year in a decade), but the OSU thing looms large.

OSu can't be THIS good every year though.  Right?
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Re: B1G West, 2020
« Reply #61 on: December 27, 2019, 08:56:08 AM »
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Re: B1G West, 2020
« Reply #62 on: December 27, 2019, 09:43:34 AM »
They were one drive away in 2017. I think it could happen, but everything has to break right (the committee does not give mulligans to schools like mine).
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Re: B1G West, 2020
« Reply #63 on: December 27, 2019, 10:32:06 AM »
Usually, if you win a P5 conference with one or fewer losses, you will be "in". 
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Re: B1G West, 2020
« Reply #64 on: December 27, 2019, 10:57:12 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on December 27, 2019, 09:43:34 AM
They were one drive away in 2017. I think it could happen, but everything has to break right (the committee does not give mulligans to schools like mine).
I don't think that is entirely true because of this:
Quote from: Cincydawg on December 27, 2019, 10:32:06 AM
Usually, if you win a P5 conference with one or fewer losses, you will be "in".
I well know that there are exceptions but it isn't all about helmets.  My school has a helmet as big as any around here and missed the CFP with one loss in:
  • 2018 with a loss to PU and a B1G Championship
  • 2015 with a loss to MSU and no B1G Championship
Quote from: Cincydawg on December 26, 2019, 09:18:25 PM
Do you think Wisconsin has "maxed out"?  Or could they find themselves in the playoff realistically?  I know it's possible and their aim.  A Rose Bowl is a good result for them.
I definitely don't think Wisconsin has "maxed out".  They aren't THAT far from a CFP appearance:
  • 2019:  UW was a stupid upset (IL) and a near-upset (B1GCG) from the CFP
  • 2017:  UW was REALLY close.  They only lost the CG by six and a win there would have had them 13-0 and obviously in.  

It could definitely happen.  Winning the CFP, however, is a much taller order.  Back in the BCS era and prior, I think that UW had a chance at winning a NC.  A team like UW needed a lot of luck.  They would have needed things to break their way in the regular season then either one upset (BCS) or the appropriate level of chaos (pre-BCS) to win an NC.  

I think that the playoff has made it much less likely.  In the BCS era all that a UW team needed once they got there was one win over a top team.  Pre-BCS they might not have even needed that.  There were years in which the PAC Champion wasn't all that good.  Now you need two wins over VERY good teams.  So far in the CFP era that has only happened for Ohio State once and Clemson and Bama twice each.  

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Re: B1G West, 2020
« Reply #65 on: December 27, 2019, 10:59:38 AM »
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Re: B1G West, 2020
« Reply #66 on: December 27, 2019, 11:01:37 AM »
So, I agree Wisconsin could make the playoffs, but likely would not be favored.
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Re: B1G West, 2020
« Reply #67 on: December 27, 2019, 01:13:14 PM »
Of course they can. Wisconsin, Penn St and Michigan St have each proven on multiple occasions that they can knock off the Buckeyes and win Big Ten Titles. They are right on the doorstep.
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Re: B1G West, 2020
« Reply #68 on: December 27, 2019, 02:13:59 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on December 27, 2019, 11:01:37 AM
So, I agree Wisconsin could make the playoffs, but likely would not be favored.
You could probably say that about any non-SEC, non-Clemson team that makes it.
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Re: B1G West, 2020
« Reply #69 on: December 27, 2019, 03:05:09 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on December 27, 2019, 01:13:14 PM
Of course they can. Wisconsin, Penn St and Michigan St have each proven on multiple occasions that they can knock off the Buckeyes and win Big Ten Titles. They are right on the doorstep.
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