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OrangeAfroMan · « **Reply #28 on:** October 08, 2018, 11:41:45 AM »

Based solely on point differential, ignoring W-L record (conf games only):
1. Ohio St
2. Michigan
3. Penn St
4. Wisconsin
5. Purdue
6. Maryland
7. Northwestern
8. Iowa
9. Michigan St
10. Illinois
11. Indiana
12. Minnesota
13. (tie) Rutgers, Nebraska

SOS Average (you know, CONTEXT!):
1. Nebraska
2. Northwestern
3. Penn St
4. Minnesota
5. Rutgers
6. (tie) Maryland, Indiana
8. Michigan St
9. Iowa
10. Ohio St
11. Michigan
12. Illinois
13. Purdue
14. Wisconsin

Point Diff +/- SOS:
1. Penn St
2. Ohio St
3. Michigan
4. Northwestern
5. Maryland
6. Wisconsin
7. Michigan St
8. Iowa
9. Purdue
10. Indiana
11. Nebraska
12. Illinois
13. Minnesota
14. Rutgers

Hawkinole · « **Reply #29 on:** October 09, 2018, 12:46:20 AM »

Quote from: ohio1317 on October 08, 2018, 08:50:38 AM

5. (5) Iowa: Sloppy game against Minnesota, but pulled it off.

Offering an explanation, not an excuse. Iowa started two freshman cornerbacks due to injuries to starters and Minnesota spent the entire game picking on them. The cornerbacks got three interceptions, but gave up a lot of yards. Fortunately, the Iowa offense didn't stick with their usual mentality of run, run, pass on 3rd and long.
I believe the starters will be in place on Saturday at cornerback against Indiana, but now there are more depth problems at an already thin linebacking corps.

Anonymous Coward · « **Reply #30 on:** October 09, 2018, 05:39:37 AM »

S&P+ Ratings this week:
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4. OSU (Rating percentile, 97.6% - Offense Rk, 3 / Defense Rk, 27 / Special Teams Rk, 54)
5. Michigan (96.8% - 25/2/8)
7. PSU (96.3% - 9/20/98)
13. Wisconsin (89.0% - 8/55/23)
26. Iowa (81.2% - 75/8/46)
31. MSU (77.2% - 62/24/37)
48. Purdue (65.6% - 23/81/87)
55. Indiana (59.7% - 81/38/64)
57. Minnesota (57.6% - 111/16/3)
58. Northwestern (56.8% - 97/31/114)
68. Maryland (45.8% - 85/57/15)
71. Nebraska (47.3% - 67/73/115)
100. Illinois (26.8% - 77/103/29)
119. Rutgers (8.2% - 123/86/9)
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Offense Only:
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1. OSU (3)
2. Wisconsin (8)
3. PSU (9)
4. Purdue (23)
5. Michigan (25)
6. MSU (62)
7. Nebraska (67)
8. Iowa (75)
9. Illinois (77)
10. Indiana (81)
11. Maryland (85)
12. Northwestern (97)
13. Minnesota (111)
14. Rutgers (123)
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Five teams in the Top 25 for offense now. The gap between #5 and #6, though, is massive.
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Defense Only:
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1. Michigan (2)
2. Iowa (8)
3. Minnesota (16)
4. PSU (20)
5. MSU (24)
6. OSU (27)
7. Northwestern (31)
8. Indiana (38)
9. Wisconsin (55)
10. Maryland (57)
11. Nebraska (73)
12. Purdue (81)
13. Rutgers (86)
14. Illinois (103)
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Conference defense took a hit this week with OSU and Indiana knocking each other out of the Top 25.
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Special Teams Only:
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1. Minnesota (3)
2. Rutgers (9)
3. Michigan (8)
4. Maryland (15)
5. Wisconsin (23)
6. Illinois (29)
7. MSU (37)
8. Iowa (46)
9. OSU (54)
10. Indiana (64)
11. Purdue (87)
12. PSU (98)
13. Northwestern (114)
14. Nebraska (115)

LittlePig · « **Reply #31 on:** October 09, 2018, 08:05:59 AM »

Quote from: Hawkinole on October 09, 2018, 12:46:20 AM

Offering an explanation, not an excuse. Iowa started two freshman cornerbacks due to injuries to starters and Minnesota spent the entire game picking on them. The cornerbacks got three interceptions, but gave up a lot of yards. Fortunately, the Iowa offense didn't stick with their usual mentality of run, run, pass on 3rd and long.
I believe the starters will be in place on Saturday at cornerback against Indiana, but now there are more depth problems at an already thin linebacking corps.

Based on the latest depth chart, Iowa has 2 true freshman starting again at CB against Indiana. Iowa's top 2 MLB are out and they are shifting thier outside LB to middle LB to start.

It could be a long day for the Iowa defense against Indiana. Iowa may play a lot of 5 DB packages with 3 safetys since they got 3 good safetys. A lot depends on who is healthy by game time.

medinabuckeye1 · « **Reply #32 on:** October 09, 2018, 11:28:49 AM »

Quote from: fezzador on October 08, 2018, 09:36:46 AM

1) Ohio State
2) Michigan

I wondered if anyone would do this. I just can't bring myself to rank Michigan which lost to a (then) not very good Notre Dame team ahead of a Penn State team that lost to a much better Ohio State. OTOH, I was thinking about ranking "Good Michigan" #1 and "Bad Michigan" somewhere around #8.

@SuperMario should appreciate this: Maybe it is just me, but I feel like Michigan is a high ceiling / low floor type team. When they are good, they are REALLY good but when they are bad they seem to fall off more than other similar teams.

medinabuckeye1 · « **Reply #33 on:** October 09, 2018, 11:32:31 AM »

Ohio State
Penn State
Michigan
Wisconsin
Iowa
Michigan State
Maryland
Indiana
Purdue
Northwestern
Minnesota
Illinois
Nebraska
Rutgers

medinabuckeye1 · « **Reply #34 on:** October 09, 2018, 12:20:04 PM »

Results posted, votes through me (16 voters).

Movements this week:

UW/M flipped.
MSU was down 1.5 into a tie with NU (passed by IA)
NU was up 3.5 into a tie with MSU for 6/7
UMD was down 1 (passed by NU)
IU was down 2 (passed by PU and NU)

At least half of us agree on:

#1 tOSU: unanimous
#2 PSU: 15 of 16
#3 M: 11 of 16
#4 UW: 12 of 16
#5 Iowa: 15 of 16
#9 PU: 8 of 16
#10 IU: 8 of 16
#11 MN: 11 of 16
#12 ILL: 8 of 16
#13 UNL: 8 of 16
#14 RU: 13 of 16

Where there is major disagreement is for #6, #7, and especially #8. No team got more than four votes for #8. Northwestern and Maryland got 4 each, Purdue and MSU got 3 each, IU and MN got 1 each.

The only non-contiguous votes this week were @TyphonInc and I who both voted NU #10. Everybody else had the Wildcats sixth (6 voters), seventh (4 voters) or eighth (4 voters).

847badgerfan · « **Reply #35 on:** October 09, 2018, 12:34:03 PM »

Please explain this one. They just played, in East Lansing.

medinabuckeye1 · « **Reply #36 on:** October 09, 2018, 12:34:29 PM »

Looking ahead to week 7:

#11 Minnesota at #1 Ohio State
#6/7 Michigan State at #2 Penn State
#4 Wisconsin at #3 Michigan
#5 Iowa at #10 Indiana
#13 Nebraska at #6/7 Northwestern
#14 Rutgers at # 8 Maryland
#9 Purdue at #12 Illinois

Nobody has a bye or OOC game so we get seven B1G matchups.

Wisconsin at Michigan is a pretty obvious choice for @ELA 's "Game of the Week" as they are both top-4 and adjacent in the Power Rankings. Additionally, they have spent the last three weeks trading the #3 and #4 spots so this should sort that out.

Michigan State at Penn State is a huge game for both teams as well. Both are a game down to the Buckeyes and Wolverines in the loss column in the B1G-E so the loser here would need a near-miracle to get to Indianapolis.

Iowa at Indiana is interesting for Power Rankings purposes.

Purdue at Illinois is interesting for bowl eligibility. The Illini would need three more wins and the Boilermakers need four more wins to go bowling and this game would probably have to be one of those.

medinabuckeye1 · « **Reply #37 on:** October 09, 2018, 12:42:30 PM »

Quote from: 847badgerfan on October 09, 2018, 12:34:03 PM

Please explain this one. They just played, in East Lansing.

Speaking for myself, it is about body-of-work. I can't figure out Northwestern. If I ranked them based on their wins over PU and MSU I would probably rank them #6. If I ranked them based on their losses to Dook and Akron I would probably rank them #13. I need to see more before I start treating the wins as their basis and those losses as "flukes".
I'm having trouble figuring out where to rank Michigan State as well. The home loss to Northwestern and close win over Utah State are problematic but Utah State is 4-0 since then including a win over BYU (you might remember them from somewhere . . .). I don't hold the road loss in Tempe too strongly against them because lots of teams lose games they shouldn't when the games are played several timezones away. Additionally, other than their loss to SDSU, the Sun Devils look pretty good. They were competitive with Washington and Colorado (both on the road) and blew out Oregon State.
In both cases, we'll know more soon. Michigan State's next two games are at #2 Penn State and vs #3 Michigan. If they are as bad as they looked losing at home by double-digits to Northwestern then they'll get blown out in both of those games and I'll adjust accordingly. Northwestern's next two games are vs #13 UNL and at #14 Rutgers. If they are as good as they looked beating MSU by double-digits in East Lansing then they'll blowout both of those teams and I'll move them up accordingly.

ELA · « **Reply #38 on:** October 09, 2018, 12:42:35 PM »

Quote from: 847badgerfan on October 09, 2018, 12:34:03 PM

Please explain this one. They just played, in East Lansing.

Because using that methodology gets really tricky, really quickly. Most of the computer rankings still have Northwestern down at 10th or so in the league. One game doesn't trump a whole season.

Do you have to have MSU ahead of Wisconsin based on how much better Utah State is than BYU? I wouldn't think so.

TyphonInc · « **Reply #39 on:** October 09, 2018, 06:32:04 PM »

Quote from: 847badgerfan on October 09, 2018, 12:34:03 PM

Please explain this one. They just played, in East Lansing.

What Medina said. I moved NU up and MSU down, just not enough for them to swap places.

ELA · « **Reply #40 on:** October 10, 2018, 08:53:47 AM »

Last week in parenthesis...

OHIO STATE (1) - back end of the defense still concerns me
PENN STATE (2) - IDLE
MICHIGAN (3) - defense has been unreal for 5 of 6 halfs in Big Ten play
WISCONSIN (4) - BYU loss becoming increasingly concerning
IOWA (5) - certainly didn't have anywhere near 79 being the points scored last weekend
MICHIGAN STATE (6) - probably closer to #11 than #5 now though
MARYLAND (7) - not a good showing, but that Texas win looks better by the week
NORTHWESTERN (11) - per usual October rolls around and Northwestern starts looking like an actual team
PURDUE (8) - IDLE
INDIANA (9) - very respectable showing in Columbus
MINNESOTA (10) - had to think scoring 31 would have been enough
NEBRASKA (12) - took too long for the offense to get rolling
ILLINOIS (13) - still probably unlikely, but the path to a bowl bid is there
RUTGERS (14) - their best chance for a conference win ended in a 21 point loss?

medinabuckeye1 · « **Reply #41 on:** October 10, 2018, 09:33:43 AM »

I added in ELA's vote. That breaks the MSU/NU tie for 6/7 in favor of MSU (by the slimmest of margins). Other than that, no changes.

I'm really looking forward to Michigan/Wisconsin. They have been basically tied for four weeks now, ever since Wisconsin's loss to BYU.

Week 3: Michigan and Iowa were tied for 3/4 with Wisconsin just 0.14 behind.
Week 4: Michigan was in 3rd with Wisconsin just 0.31 behind in 4th.
Week 5: Wisconsin was in 3rd with Michigan just 0.31 behind in 4th.
Week 6: Michigan is in 3rd with Wisconsin just 0.60 behind in 4th.

Barring a REALLY close win by the home team, this week should resolve that tie. Barring an upset loss by tOSU (v#12 MN) or PSU (v #6 MSU) the UW/M winner should be a clear #3.

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