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Topic: B1G Power Rankings, week 6

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Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 6
« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2020, 02:16:38 PM »
Heard Michigan might be next with COVID
wonder if OSU can stave off the spread of the virus to resume this week
Between these two factors I think that the chances of Ohio State getting the six games necessary to be eligible for the CG are minimal.  


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Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 6
« Reply #15 on: November 30, 2020, 02:24:21 PM »
I suspect that they might revise that stipulation on the fly, as riveting as a CCG might be between a Northwestern team that lost to MSU and an Indiana team with no Penix. 
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Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 6
« Reply #16 on: November 30, 2020, 02:25:28 PM »
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Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 6
« Reply #17 on: November 30, 2020, 02:31:45 PM »


We'll see. 

This conference has one NC contender, and the rest is just a beefed up version of the Mac; a bunch of teams that are even worse than Northwestern and Indiana. 
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Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 6
« Reply #18 on: December 01, 2020, 10:05:09 AM »
So if we simply went by relative performance against opponents it would be:
I like it.............
1 Ohio State
2 Iowa
3 Wisconsin
4 Indiana
5 Northwestern
6 Purdue
7 Maryland
8 Rutgers
9 Penn State
10 Minnesota
11 Illinois
12 Nebraska
13 Michigan
14 Michigan State
So, do I treat this as your vote?

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Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 6
« Reply #19 on: December 01, 2020, 10:08:01 AM »
1. Ohio State
2. Indiana
3. Iowa
4. Northwestern
5. Wisconsin
6. Purdue
7. Penn State
8. Michigan State
9. Illinois
10. Maryland
11. Nebraska
12. Minnesota
13. Michigan
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Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 6
« Reply #20 on: December 01, 2020, 10:15:07 AM »
What's more interesting to me as a Purdue fan is the trend line...

Their 5 games in order:

1 --> 3.5 --> 3.0 --> 4.5 --> 5.0

Is that meaningful that they're getting worse relative to rest-of-conference performances as the season goes on? Is there a simple explanation for it such as perhaps MN/RU having a more difficult slate than IA/NU?

I don't know, but it does seem like there's a trend here, and it's not a good one.
I haven't watched enough Purdue games to know if there are obvious reasons.  Have they had a bunch of guys out the last couple weeks?  

Chronological for Purdue:
  • 4 point win over Iowa:  Better than NU, UNL, PSU, MN, and MSU
  • 7 point win over IL:  Worse than UW and MN.  Better than UNL and RU.  
  • Off due to UW cancelling due to COVID
  • 7 point loss to NU:  Worse than MSU, IA.  Better than UNL, UW, and UMD.  
  • 3 point loss to MN:  Worse than IA, M, and UMD.  Better than IL.  
  • 7 point loss to RU:  Worse than tOSU, IU, M, and IL.  Better than MSU.  

Not sure what to make of that.  Being worse, the last few weeks than MSU, M, UMD, and IL is concerning for sure.  


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Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 6
« Reply #21 on: December 01, 2020, 10:27:22 AM »
Looking at last week's rankings and what happened is just weird:

  • Ohio State:  DNP due to COVID
  • Northwestern lost by 9 to #13/14 MSU
  • Indiana won by 16 over #7 UMD
  • Wisconsin DNP due to COVID
  • Iowa won by 6 over #12 UNL
  • Purdue lost by 7 to #11 RU
  • Maryland lost by 16 to #3 IU
  • Minnesota DNP due to COVID
  • Illinois DNP due to COVID
  • Michigan lost by 10 to #13/14 PSU
  • Rutgers won by 7 over #6 PU
  • Nebraska lost by 6 to #5 IA
  • (tie) Penn State won by 10 over #10 M
  • (tie) Michigan State won by 9 over #2 NU


PSU and MSU were tied for dead last in our rankings then went out and convincingly beat #10 Michigan and #2 Northwestern respectively.  In addition, #11 Rutgers beat #6 PU by a TD meaning that three of the five games played resulted in the lower ranked team winning.  #5 Iowa at least won their game over #12 Nebraska but didn't look very impressive beating Nebraska by six at home when you consider that the only team to do worse than that against Nebraska was Penn State.  The only higher ranked team to perform somewhere close to expectations was #3 Indiana who beat #7 Maryland by 16.  That really impressed me because I wouldn't have been surprised to see the Hoosiers look pretty weak after coming up just short last week.  

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Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 6
« Reply #22 on: December 01, 2020, 10:43:47 AM »

  • Ohio State:  Basically until proven otherwise.  
  • Iowa:  I don't know what it is with Ferentz and the slow starts but right now I think the Hawkeyes are better than anyone below them.  
  • Wisconsin:  It is hard to tell with only three games to look at but this feels right for now.  
  • Indiana:  The Hoosiers avoided the let down game.  
  • Northwestern:  The Wildcats looked horrible against MSU but they still own wins over my #2, #3, #7, #9, and #11.  
  • Penn State:  I still think the Nittany Lions are better than their record and I think they'll prove me right by winning out (@RU, vMSU).  
  • Maryland:  They aren't good, but they are better than the rest.  I realize that they beat PSU by 16 in Happy Valley, but if they played again tomorrow I think it would look quite different.  
  • Rutgers:  Oh so close to so much more.  They lost to IL by a FG and to M in OT.  They are thisclose to 4-2.  Schiano has this program headed in the right direction.  
  • Purdue:  That they could lose three straight and still be #9 is impressive.  Their trajectory, however, is not.  
  • Illinois:  Suddenly their season-ending game against Northwestern doesn't look so impossible anymore.  
  • Nebraska:  I'd have put them at #10 but that blowout home loss just stings.  
  • Michigan:  The Wolverines have WAY too much talent to be ranked in the bottom third of the conference.  
  • Minnesota:  I'm not sure what to make of this team.  They beat PU and blew out IL but they also lost to UMD and got blown out by IA and M.  
  • Michigan State:  This is another team that is hard to figure out.  The win over NU looks great and beating M is never a bad thing but they also got annihilated by IA and IU and lost by two scores to RU.  


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Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 6
« Reply #23 on: December 01, 2020, 11:06:25 AM »
I haven't watched enough Purdue games to know if there are obvious reasons.  Have they had a bunch of guys out the last couple weeks? 

Chronological for Purdue:
  • 4 point win over Iowa:  Better than NU, UNL, PSU, MN, and MSU
  • 7 point win over IL:  Worse than UW and MN.  Better than UNL and RU. 
  • Off due to UW cancelling due to COVID
  • 7 point loss to NU:  Worse than MSU, IA.  Better than UNL, UW, and UMD. 
  • 3 point loss to MN:  Worse than IA, M, and UMD.  Better than IL. 
  • 7 point loss to RU:  Worse than tOSU, IU, M, and IL.  Better than MSU. 

Not sure what to make of that.  Being worse, the last few weeks than MSU, M, UMD, and IL is concerning for sure. 
There was a QB change. Aidan O'Connell was playing through something against Northwestern, and then for MN and RU they brought in Jack Plummer.

Other than that, Rondale started the season out of commission, and came back for MN and RU. George Karlaftis missed a few games due to injury and now is out 21 days for COVID just as he was coming back. One the really hurt was Derrick Barnes getting ejected for hitting with the crown of the helmet early in the second half against RU--that killed our defense when we wanted to mount a comeback and he'll be out the first half Saturday.

But overall, it's just weird. You never know what you're going to get from this team. Every game decided within 1 score, against wildly different levels of competition. 

Maybe, to be honest, Iowa is the outlier. It was the first game of the season for both teams, both with a little rust on them, and Iowa isn't exactly an offensive powerhouse.  Iowa got better as the year went on, and Purdue just stayed the same?

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Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 6
« Reply #24 on: December 01, 2020, 11:19:48 AM »
Maybe, to be honest, Iowa is the outlier. It was the first game of the season for both teams, both with a little rust on them, and Iowa isn't exactly an offensive powerhouse.  Iowa got better as the year went on, and Purdue just stayed the same?
That seems like the most likely answer.  Purdue was within +/- one score of those other four teams and now that NU lost to MSU it doesn't seem unreasonable for them to be +/- one score of each of them.  

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Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 6
« Reply #25 on: December 01, 2020, 11:54:06 AM »
1 Iowa
2 Wisconsin
3 Indiana 
4 Northwestern 
5 Penn State 
6 Maryland 
7 Illinois 
8 Nebraska 
9 RutgerSs 
10 Boilermaker
11 Michigan tate


n/a 1 Ohio State 
n/a 2 Michigan 
n/a 3 Minnesota 
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Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 6
« Reply #26 on: December 01, 2020, 11:58:35 AM »
1 Iowa
2 Wisconsin
3 Indiana
4 Northwestern
5 Penn State
6 Maryland
7 Illinois
8 Nebraska
9 RutgerSs
10 Boilermaker
11 Michigan tate


n/a 1 Ohio State
n/a 2 Michigan
n/a 3 Minnesota
You gave Rutger its "s" make, and also gave them Michigan State's capital "S"??
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Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 6
« Reply #27 on: December 01, 2020, 12:00:23 PM »
No, they got Michigan State's capital S, and they got the lowercase s from the Boilermakers. 

Collecting Ses and kicking asses. 
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