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medinabuckeye1 · « **Reply #28 on:** November 26, 2019, 04:35:19 PM »

Results posted, votes through me, 16 voters.

Changes this week:

Penn State was up a half spot into a tie for 2nd/3rd with Minnesota.
Minnesota was up two and a half spots into a tie for 2nd/3rd with Penn State.
Wisconsin was down two spots to fourth.
Michigan was down a spot to fifth.
Maryland was down a half spot and Northwestern was up a half spot into a tie for 12th/13th.

The changes for PSU, MN, UW, and M are not as big as they appear. None of those teams' average rankings changed by more than 0.84 but they are all so close that even minuscule changes in average ranking can result in big changes in ranking position.

Sometimes it helps to look a little deeper:
Michigan fell a spot to fifth despite the fact that their average didn't change. Minnesota improved slightly and passed them. The odd thing about Michigan is that they actually have the most 2nd place votes but they have zero third place votes. As I mentioned not long ago wrt Minnesota, it is very unusual to have a void in between groups of votes. In this case I think I can see why: If you look at the season as a whole without weighting recency it is pretty much impossible to justify ranking Michigan second. They got flat out obliterated by Wisconsin so you almost have to rank the Badgers higher than the Wolverines. My supposition here is that the five people who voted Michigan #2 ( @MichiFan87 , RibEye, @Brutus Buckeye , @MaximumSam , and @iahawk15 ) must be effectively arguing that Michigan is an improved team. There is some pretty good justification for that. Ever since falling behind 21-0 at PSU the Wolverines have been on an absolute tear. The other 11 voters are obviously unconvinced by the recent tear so they have the Wolverines fourth, fifth, or sixth.

Sorting out the 2-6 conundrum this weekend:

#2/3 Penn State plays Rutgers so they should be expected to win BIG. Other teams in the 2-6 group already beat Rutgers by 52, 35, and 30 points.
#2/3 Minnesota hosts Wisconsin so they have an opportunity to move up or down depending on how things go. A one-score win by the home team would fit this year's pattern for 2-6 games so anything outside of that would have a big impact on the rankings.
#4 Wisconsin travels to Minnesota so they have an opportunity to move up or down depending on how things go. Per above, a one-score win by the home team would fit this year's pattern.
#5 Michigan hosts Ohio State so they are probably safe from dropping because even a big loss wouldn't be much worse than the rest of the group and they have a major opportunity to move up with a win or even a close loss.
#6 Iowa travels to Nebraska so they should be expected to win decisively. Other teams in the 2-6 group already beat Nebraska by 27 and 16 points.

medinabuckeye1 · « **Reply #29 on:** November 26, 2019, 04:41:02 PM »

This weekends' games by Power Ranking:

#1 Ohio State at #5 Michigan
#2/3 Penn State vs #14 Rutgers
#2/3 Minnesota vs #4 Wisconsin
#6 Iowa at #11 Nebraska
#7 Indiana at #10 Purdue
#8 Illinois vs #12/13 Northwestern
#9 Michigan State vs #12/13 Maryland

Should be a fun weekend!

Hawkinole · « **Reply #30 on:** November 26, 2019, 07:22:25 PM »

I enjoy reading the charts each week.

I do not understand vote distribution. If you have time, please explain "vote distribution."

medinabuckeye1 · « **Reply #31 on:** November 26, 2019, 10:59:12 PM »

Quote from: Hawkinole on November 26, 2019, 07:22:25 PM

I enjoy reading the charts each week.

I do not understand vote distribution. If you have time, please explain "vote distribution."

It is the number of votes at each spot for each team represented graphically. Unfortunately, sometimes it is hard to read:

Far left, Ohio State is represented by gray dots on a red line. Ohio State has all 16 votes for #1.

Next, at #2 the top vote-getter is Michigan represented by yellow dots on a blue line. They have five votes for #2.

Next Minnesota is represented by yellow dots on a maroonish line and has four votes for #2.

You can't see it, but Penn State is represented by white dots on a blue line and also has four votes for #2.

Finally, Wisconsin is represented by white dots on a red line and has three votes for #2.

5 (M) + 4 (MN) + 4 (PSU) + 3 (UW) = 16 so all second place votes are accounted for.

Next at #3 MN and PSU are again tied with six votes each while UW has four and 6+6+4=16.

At #4 UW has half of the votes (8), M has three, PSU & MN have two each while IA has one. Once again all 16 voters are accounted for because 8+3+2+2+1=16.

ELA · « **Reply #32 on:** November 27, 2019, 07:45:58 AM »

OHIO STATE (1) - I mean, I guess that was their C game?
PENN STATE (2) - first team to stay within striking distance of OSU for 3 quarters
MICHIGAN (3) - development of the WRs over the second half of the season has transformed the offense
WISCONSIN (4) - ho hum, another Thanksgiving with a Division title on the line
MINNESOTA (5) - biggest game in the Brickhouse Pt. II
IOWA (6) - 19-10 is the most Big Ten score ever
ILLINOIS (8) - was feisty enough to give Iowa trouble
MICHIGAN STATE (9) - not reading anything into it, Rutgers is that bad
INDIANA (7) - looking more and more like a product of their schedule, haven't beat a team above them
NEBRASKA (11) - Frost BADLY needed that, and it gives the team something to play for on Senior Day
PURDUE (10) - gave Bucky trouble for a while, winnable Bucket game next
NORTHWESTERN (13) - shows just how bad Maryland looked, that the Cats moved up
MARYLAND (12) - is this team already done with 2019? This week should be a good test of that
RUTGERS (14)

ELA · « **Reply #33 on:** November 27, 2019, 07:53:04 AM »

Updated Massey composite computer ranking, with 113 rankings (last week in parenthesis)

OHIO STATE (1)
Clemson (3)
LSU (2)
Georgia (4)
Alabama (6)
PENN STATE (5)
Utah (8)
MICHIGAN (10)
Oklahoma (9)
WISCONSIN (12)
Notre Dame (13)
Florida (11)
Baylor (16)
Oregon (7)
MINNESOTA (14)
Auburn (15)
Memphis (19)
IOWA (18)
Cincinnati (17)
Boise State (20)
Appalachian State (21)
USC (23)
Navy (-)
Oklahoma State (24)
Iowa State (-)

38. Indiana (34)
43. Michigan State (48)
51. Illinois (51)
61. Nebraska (74)
78. Purdue (77)
102. Maryland (91)
106. Northwestern (106)
118. Rutgers (117)

medinabuckeye1 · « **Reply #34 on:** November 29, 2019, 08:52:01 AM »

I added in @ELA 's vote and since things are so close it changed the order a bit.

PSU is now alone in 2nd
MN/UW are now tied for 3rd/4th
NU is now alone in 12th
UMD is now alone in 13th

LittlePig · « **Reply #35 on:** November 29, 2019, 09:07:05 AM »

Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on November 29, 2019, 08:52:01 AM

I added in @ELA 's vote and since things are so close it changed the order a bit.

PSU is now alone in 2nd
MN/UW are now tied for 3rd/4th
NU is now alone in 12th
UMD is now alone in 13th

You might as well just say that PSU, Minn and Wisc are in a virtual tie for 2nd.

I would think whoever wins the Minn/Wisc would gain enough votes to separate themselves from PSU.

medinabuckeye1 · « **Reply #36 on:** November 29, 2019, 12:41:10 PM »

Quote from: LittlePig on November 29, 2019, 09:07:05 AM

You might as well just say that PSU, Minn and Wisc are in a virtual tie for 2nd.

I would think whoever wins the Minn/Wisc would gain enough votes to separate themselves from PSU.

Yep, and Michigan and even Iowa are not all that far behind.

FearlessF · « **Reply #37 on:** December 01, 2019, 10:34:55 AM »

1. OSU
2. PSU
3. Wisconsin
4. Minnesota
5. Michigan
6. Iowa
7. Indiana
9. Illinois
10. MSU
10. Purdue
11. Nebraska
12. Maryland
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13. Northwestern
14. Rutgers

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