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Hawkinole · « **Reply #14 on:** November 22, 2021, 11:02:34 AM »

Quote from: ELA on November 22, 2021, 09:53:36 AM

Last week in parenthesis
IOWA (7) - wasn't sure this team was capable of giving up 23 and winning

Iowa scored 7-points on a kick return, and 7-points on a pick-six, so there is truth in what you say.
Iowa is capable of scoring in ways other than on offense, but scoring on special teams and defense will not happen every week. This team needs to score more on offense if it intends to beat Nebraska.

FearlessF · « **Reply #15 on:** November 22, 2021, 11:12:36 AM »

never fear, the Huskers gave up a TD on the opening KO to the Badgers

Martinez has great experience giving up pick sixes

Iowa will get theirs - SOMEHOW

FearlessF · « **Reply #16 on:** November 22, 2021, 11:14:03 AM »

1. Ohio State
2. Michigan
3. Wisconsin
4. Purdue
5. Iowa
6. Michigan State
7. Penn State
8. Minnesota
9. Nebraska
10. Illinois
11. Maryland
12. Rutgers
13. Northwestern
14. Indiana

medinabuckeye1 · « **Reply #17 on:** November 22, 2021, 04:00:03 PM »

Quote from: ELA on November 22, 2021, 09:30:40 AM

Hang the banner

This is a power ranking. It isn't about hanging the banner, who earned what, or who "should" go to the CG. A power ranking is about which team we think is best. With respect to three of this weekend's games I've already seen enough:

Illinois/Northwestern: I've seen enough to say that I think that Illinois is the better team. If Northwestern wins this weekend that will not change my opinion. It will simply be an upset, those happen.
Indiana/Purdue: I've seen enough to say that I think that Purdue is the better team. If Indiana wins this weekend that will not change my opinion. It will simply be an upset, those happen.
Ohio State/Michigan: I've seen enough to say that I think that Ohio State is the better team. If Michigan wins this weekend that will not change my opinion. It will simply be an upset, those happen.

medinabuckeye1 · « **Reply #18 on:** November 22, 2021, 06:53:06 PM »

Not my ranking, ranking based on relative outcome against each conference opponent:

1.125 Ohio State
2.563 Wisconsin
2.571 Nebraska
3.563 Penn State
3.625 Purdue
3.750 Michigan
4.375 Iowa
4.438 Minnesota
5.222 Illinois
5.313 Michigan State
5.688 Rutgers
6.688 Northwestern
6.688 Indiana
7.063 Maryland

Method:
Each team's eight conference opponents are ranked 1->8 based on best performance against that team to worst performance against that team. Where there are ties the tied teams get the average of the rankings they are tied for (ie, two teams tied for 1st/2nd best each get 1.5). Then the rankings listed above are the average of each teams' eight rankings.

Example:

Ohio State is #1 against MSU ahead of #2 Purdue
Ohio State is #1 against PSU ahead of #2 M
Ohio State is #1 against PU ahead of #2 UW
Ohio State is #1 against MN ahead of #2 IL
Ohio State is #1 against UNL ahead of #2 IL
Ohio State is #2 against RU behind #1 UW and ahead of #3 PSU
Ohio State is #1 against UMD ahead of #2 M
Ohio State is #1 against IU ahead of #2 RU
The average of seven #1's and one #2 is 1.125

medinabuckeye1 · « **Reply #19 on:** November 22, 2021, 07:08:33 PM »

Ohio State - 1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1 I do not think it is close.
Michigan - 2,2,3,2,2,3,3,3,3,5,5,5 I have them ahead of UW mostly because they beat UW by three TD's but that said I wouldn't be very confident that they would beat UW on a neutral field now.
Wisconsin - 3,3,4,4,5,5,5,7,4,3,3,2 I've been saying for weeks that Wisconsin was better than their record. At this point in the season I think they wish they could have some early losses back.
Penn State - 4,4,5,6,3,4,4,2,2,2,2,3 Odd team. They don't "feel like" a .500 team to me but they are now 4-4 in the league. Their nine point loss to Ohio State ties Nebraska for the closest any B1G team has gotten to the Buckeyes and the Nittany Lions did it in the Horseshoe. Their other three losses were by four points, by a FG, and in the NINTH OT. Penn State is three plays from 10-1/7-1 but . . . They aren't 10-1/7-1, they are 6-4/3-4.
Michigan State - 5,5,2,5,6,6,6,8,7,9,9,11 The Spartans aren't nearly as bad as they looked on Saturday.
Iowa - 6,6,6,3,4,2,2,4,5,4,4,4 Another odd team. They'll probably gain 150 yards against Nebraska yet manage to score 24 points and win 24-17.
Purdue - 7,7,8,9,8,12,12,11,11,11,11,10 The Boilermakers have a good chance to finish a very respectable 6-3/8-4. Purdue hasn't won eight games in a season since 2007 and they haven't won nine since 2003.
Minnesota - 8,8,7,7,7,10,10,9,6,8,6,7 Looked good!
Maryland - 9,9,9,10,9,8,8,5,8,6,7,12 It seems like eons ago now but once upon a time Maryland was 4-0 and on the cusp of being ranked with a good looking win over WVU on their resume. They were a popular upset pick for a Friday night home game against #5 Iowa. In fact they held a 7-3 lead over #5 Iowa at the end of the first quarter. Since then not much has gone right for the Terps. Iowa exploded for 31 unanswered points in the second quarter and an overall run of 41 unanswered points before Maryland scored a meaningless TD late in the third quarter while down 44-7. They had a week off to get things figured out then somehow looked even worse against Ohio State and their only win since September was a three point home win over an Indiana team that Rutgers demolished in Bloomington. Now they face Rutgers in the bowl-eligibility bowl!
Nebraska - 10,10,10,11,10,7,7,12,12,14,14,9 Another game another one-score loss. Nebraska's close losses to make it "feel" like they are better than this but 3-8/1-7 keeps them here.
Illinois - 11,11,13,8,12,13,13,13,13,13,13,14 They got Iowa'd.
Rutgers - 12,13,12,14,9,9,9,6,9,7,8,13 Heading to the bowl-eligibility bowl!
Northwestern - 13,14,14,13,14,14,14,14,14,12,12,8 Just not their year.
Indiana - 14,12,11,12,11,11,11,10,10,10,10,6 For anyone keeping track, the Hoosiers lost to Cincinnati by two TD's. In the B1G they have bigger losses to tOSU (47), RU (35), IA (28), PSU (24), M (22), and MN (21).

FearlessF · « **Reply #20 on:** November 22, 2021, 08:59:34 PM »

Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on November 22, 2021, 06:53:06 PM

Not my ranking, ranking based on relative outcome against each conference opponent:

1.125 Ohio State
2.563 Wisconsin
2.571 Nebraska
3.563 Penn State
3.625 Purdue
3.750 Michigan
4.375 Iowa

I'd rather live in this world

LittlePig · « **Reply #21 on:** November 22, 2021, 11:12:44 PM »

Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on November 22, 2021, 07:08:33 PM

Iowa - 6,6,6,3,4,2,2,4,5,4,4,4 Another odd team. They'll probably gain 150 yards against Nebraska yet manage to score 24 points and win 24-17
Indiana - 14,12,11,12,11,11,11,10,10,10,10,6 For anyone keeping track, the Hoosiers lost to Cincinnati by two TD's. In the B1G they have bigger losses to tOSU (47), RU (35), PSU (24), M (22), and MN (21).

And Indiana also loss to Iowa 34-6

Yes, Iowa fans are very confused with this obsession everybody else has with yards per game. Yards don't matter. Points matter! The other team can have as many yards as they want as long as they don't get in the endzone ar the end of the drive. Kick return TDs and pick-6 TDs count the same points as offensive TD's

Am I being serious? AM I being sarcastic? I honestly don't know anymore.

Hawkinole · « **Reply #22 on:** November 22, 2021, 11:19:14 PM »

Medina,
As a group, do we have more than the usual movement in polling week-to-week this year, compared to past seasons??
It seems like it, but I don't keep track of that movement from year-to-year. Even at the top it was unsettled the first few weeks.

TyphonInc · « **Reply #23 on:** November 23, 2021, 01:36:03 AM »

1. Michigan
2. Ohio State
3. Wisconsin
4. Michigan State
5. Penn State
6. Purdue
7. Iowa
8. Minnesota
9. Maryland
10. Illinois
11. Nebraska
12. Northwestern
13. Rutgers
14. Indiana

NorthernOhioBuckeye · « **Reply #24 on:** November 23, 2021, 07:35:32 AM »

Ohio State - Didn't see that performance coming. I hope they play that well this weekend, we'll see.
Michigan - Looked good against a fair to poor Maryland team. Surprised they showed some trick plays. Perhaps they are trying to force tOSU to waste time preparing for them.
Wisconsin - Right now, I believe they may be the 2nd best team in the B1G. But will leave them here for now.
Purdue - Not sure I should leave them this high, but if everyone is healthy, I think they should beat the teams below them on a neutral field.
Michigan State - Let's see if they can bounce back after getting their doors blown off.
Penn State - With a healthy Clifford, I believe they are better than the rest. If not, I don't know.
Iowa - Great defense and special teams. If they only had an offense.
Minnesota - Best of the rest.
Rutgers - Not sure why, but I have a feeling they could beat the teams below them. They have 1 last chance this week.
Maryland - Put up a fight to UM, but just didn't have enough in the tank.
Illinois - Who knows.
Nebraska - I think they are better than this but at some point, you have to win one of those close games.
Northwestern - Their down year. If trends continue, they will be competing for the West next season.
Indiana - As someone else said and I believe I said last week, this team has quit.

FearlessF · « **Reply #25 on:** November 23, 2021, 09:22:22 AM »

Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on November 22, 2021, 04:00:03 PM

This is a power ranking. It isn't about hanging the banner, who earned what, or who "should" go to the CG. A power ranking is about which team we think is best.

and you have Nebraska ranked #10?

medinabuckeye1 · « **Reply #26 on:** November 23, 2021, 09:57:49 AM »

Quote from: Hawkinole on November 22, 2021, 11:19:14 PM

Medina,
As a group, do we have more than the usual movement in polling week-to-week this year, compared to past seasons??
It seems like it, but I don't keep track of that movement from year-to-year. Even at the top it was unsettled the first few weeks.

I honestly don't know because I don't keep the old spreadsheets. Each week I update and then for each new year I just update and start over.

medinabuckeye1 · « **Reply #27 on:** November 23, 2021, 10:08:56 AM »

Quote from: LittlePig on November 22, 2021, 11:12:44 PM

And Indiana also loss to Iowa 34-6

Not sure how I missed that, it has been added.

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