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Topic: B1G Power Rankings, preseason

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medinabuckeye1

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Re: B1G Power Rankings, preseason
« Reply #56 on: August 25, 2021, 11:55:38 PM »
Standard deviations of votes highest to lowest:

  • Michigan:  This makes sense.  Recruiting says they should pretty easily be #2 but the past few years (decades) of history says not.  
  • Minnesota:  A lot of this is because of @847badgerfan 's outlier #14 vote but still they are a curious case.  If you view 2020 as an anomaly and assume they are building on 2019 then ranking them as high as #5 makes sense, otherwise a double-digit ranking may make sense.  
  • Rutgers:  I think a lot of this depends on how quickly the voter thinks Schiano can translate recruiting success and past success in current success.  
  • Northwestern:  I think a lot of this depends on how you view the injury situation.  BIG DROP AFTER THIS
  • Maryland:  
  • Illinois:  I don't get this one.  From my perspective they should be close to last on this list with everyone voting them #14.  Maybe I'm missing something, we'll find out.  
  • Purdue:  
  • Iowa:  
  • Indiana:  
  • Nebraska:  
  • Penn State:  
  • Wisconsin:  
  • Michigan State:  
  • Ohio State:  No variance, unanimously #1

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Re: B1G Power Rankings, preseason
« Reply #57 on: August 26, 2021, 08:40:22 AM »
Illinois returned a lot of players, even with the coaching change.  Some folks believe in Bert in the B1G
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Re: B1G Power Rankings, preseason
« Reply #58 on: August 26, 2021, 09:44:29 AM »
I'll always be a fan of Bert in the B1G.  I like to have personalities among our coaches.  Paul Chryst, for example, has been very successful at UW, but not as much personality.  So it's good to have Bert, Harbaugh, and Franklin in the conference for the entertainment value.
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Re: B1G Power Rankings, preseason
« Reply #59 on: August 26, 2021, 09:45:35 AM »
I "liked" having Steve Spurrier around for that too, but he managed to beat us too often.
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Re: B1G Power Rankings, preseason
« Reply #60 on: August 26, 2021, 09:50:21 AM »
I like Bert in Champaign, if he were to move to Iowa City, it might be too much Bert for me 
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Re: B1G Power Rankings, preseason
« Reply #61 on: August 26, 2021, 09:57:00 AM »
Quote from: Abba on August 26, 2021, 09:44:29 AM
I'll always be a fan of Bert in the B1G.  I like to have personalities among our coaches.  Paul Chryst, for example, has been very successful at UW, but not as much personality.  So it's good to have Bert, Harbaugh, and Franklin in the conference for the entertainment value.
You forgot PJ Barnum.
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Re: B1G Power Rankings, preseason
« Reply #62 on: August 26, 2021, 10:07:38 AM »
I always wait until after I have seen the teams at least once.  They are usually quite different than or pre-season perceptions.   

I think Wisconsin, Penn State, Iowa and Michigan are going to be high quality, physical teams.  
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Re: B1G Power Rankings, preseason
« Reply #63 on: August 26, 2021, 11:03:48 AM »
Really tricky to try to do preseason rankings any year, but coming off a a weird year and with so many teams returning so many players it could make for an even tougher challenge. Part of me thinks we are in for a repeat nationally of the 2007 year where we see a lot of movement throughout the year and really, multiple teams reach the top 10 at some point. 

As for the Big Ten, the team that interests me the most besides Iowa would be the week 1 opponent Indiana. Looking at their roster and production last year, my biggest question would be the run game. If it is slightly above average from the running back spot, they will be solid. Pair that with a healthy Penix and look out.

No idea why but I think Michigan has a nice bounce back year. Scarce amount of national media coverage and expectations for this team that I am aware of, so lets see what they can do with it. 

Northwestern is the team I would think takes the biggest step back just based of of returning production, but if at the end of the year they are sitting near the top of the conference I will kick myself for doubting Pat Fitzgerald. 

Just cant wait to get going.
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Re: B1G Power Rankings, preseason
« Reply #64 on: August 30, 2021, 09:53:56 AM »
Just an FYI:
I'm not planning on doing a week-0 update so we'll stand with the preseason rankings until after this week (week 1) games.  

In week-0 only Nebraska and Illinois played so there just isn't much to update:

  • Nebraska was #10 with an average vote of 9.67 in a range from 8-13.  
  • Illinois was #14 with an average vote of 13.20 in a range from 9-14.   


This week we have four league games:
  • #1 tOSU at #7 MN, Thursday at 8pm on Fox
  • #3 PSU at #2 UW, Saturday at noon on Fox
  • #4 IU at #5 Iowa, Saturday at 3:30 on BTN
  • #13 MSU at #8 NU, Friday at 9 on ESPN
Then the other six teams are all in action as well:

  • #6 Michigan vs WMU Saturday at noon on ESPN
  • #9 Maryland vs WVU Saturday at 3:30 on ESPN
  • #10 Nebraska vs Fordham Saturday at noon on BTN
  • #11 Rutgers vs Temple Thursday at 6:30 on BTN
  • #12 Purdue vs OrSU Saturday at 7 on FS1
  • #14 Illinois vs UTSA Saturday at 7:30 on BTN


This week will obviously tell us a lot.  We have two games between teams adjacent to each other in the rankings (2UW/3PSU and 4IU/5IA) and the other two league games are decent matchups as well.  I'm interested to see how Nebraska and Illinois respond after their game.  WMU could be a challenge for Michigan though that would obviously be a bad sign if they are.  Maryland/WVU should be a good game.  Rutgers/Temple is a decent test of Rutgers' growth.  PU/OrSU is intriguing.  All-in-all, I think it is a heck of a lineup and that is just in the B1G.  

Nationally we have a decent number of ranked vs ranked matchups:
  • #19 Penn State at #12 Wisconsin, Saturday at noon on Fox
  • #1 Bama at #14 Miami, Saturday at 3:30 on ABC
  • #17 Indiana at #18 Iowa, Saturday at 3:30 on BTN
  • #23 Louisiana at #21 Texas, Saturday at 4:30 on Fox
  • #5 Georgia at #3 Clemson, Saturday at 7:30 on ABC
Pretty darn good lineup!

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Re: B1G Power Rankings, preseason
« Reply #65 on: August 30, 2021, 11:56:07 AM »
Do we want to update after week 0 or wait until after week 1?
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Re: B1G Power Rankings, preseason
« Reply #66 on: August 30, 2021, 12:30:29 PM »
Might as well say where you'd move Illinois and Nebraska, since most here got those two wrong. 
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Re: B1G Power Rankings, preseason
« Reply #67 on: August 30, 2021, 12:55:16 PM »
yup, just swap 'em
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Re: B1G Power Rankings, preseason
« Reply #68 on: August 30, 2021, 01:12:18 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on August 30, 2021, 12:55:16 PM
yup, just swap 'em


That would work for most, but not me. 



Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on August 18, 2021, 10:39:33 AM
9 Illinois - I am confident that the Bert remembers how to defeat the teams that are in the B1G West. Wisconsin Lite.
10 Nebraska - This is probably too high. Helmet bump.



Obviously I need to move Nebraska down a slot or three. Number of spots TBD I suppose, based on the results of the other games. 
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Re: B1G Power Rankings, preseason
« Reply #69 on: August 30, 2021, 01:20:02 PM »
Quote from: Benthere2 on August 17, 2021, 02:21:23 PM
1.  OSU-until proven otherwise
2.  Wisconsin-decent schedule
3.  Iowa- should have a good year but Kirk seems to always do better when he isn't supposed to
4.  Indiana-might have  a fall back year but until that happens ride the wave
5.  PSU-another one that might drop a bit after a few games
6.  Minnesota-questions only on defense and had some nice transfer pick ups there
7.  Northwestern-Pat seems to find ways
8.  Michigan-if not this year Jim's seat gets real hot by end of the year
9.  Maryland-might be the surprise of the East
10. Nebraska-Frost has thinned out the herd so now it should be a lot of his guys
11. Purdue-threw last 4 together in a hat and Purdue came out here
12. Rutgers-same hat deal
13. MSU-I guess they had a heavier ping pong ball in the hat
14. Illinois-Lovie would have had them higher

swap my spots for Ne and Ill
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