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Topic: B1G Divisional races after week 11

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Re: B1G Divisional races after week 11
« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2022, 12:19:37 PM »
Quote from: Temp430 on November 13, 2022, 06:51:56 AM
Iowa is the Big Ten West co-champion and heads to Indy again.
Quote from: FearlessF on November 13, 2022, 08:49:55 AM
to get pounded by Michigan, AGAIN
I don't know you anymore
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Re: B1G Divisional races after week 11
« Reply #15 on: November 13, 2022, 12:35:59 PM »
gotta hold up your end ;)
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Re: B1G Divisional races after week 11
« Reply #16 on: November 13, 2022, 01:25:01 PM »
Da Fuq they are,and I even rooted for the 'Skers.Booger is trying to get Corum some Heisman votes instead of resting him.
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Re: B1G Divisional races after week 11
« Reply #17 on: November 13, 2022, 01:54:19 PM »
28 carries in a game that was never in question

I would have saved his carries for the goalline after he had 120 yards

get some TDs, get some rest
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Re: B1G Divisional races after week 11
« Reply #18 on: November 15, 2022, 06:26:06 PM »
May be an image of text that says 'FUEL TOMORROW B1G STAT Notable Big Ten West Clinching Scenarios Purdue: Win both games AND lowa loss lowa: Win both games AND Illinois loss B1G Illinois: Win both games AND Purdue loss Minnesota: Win both games AND Illinois loss AND Purdue loss'
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Re: B1G Divisional races after week 11
« Reply #19 on: November 15, 2022, 06:28:07 PM »
Nobody controls their own density?
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Re: B1G Divisional races after week 11
« Reply #20 on: November 15, 2022, 06:42:29 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on November 15, 2022, 06:28:07 PM
Nobody controls their own density?
Nobody.  That's the beauty of tiebreakers. Assuming the division winner is 6-3,  then..

Purdue wins a 2-way tie with Illinois or Minn, but...

Iowa wins a 2-way tie with Purdue,  but...

Illinois wins a 2-way tie with Iowa or Minn, and...

Illinois wins a 3-way tie with Purdue and Iowa or Minn.

Minn essentially can't win any ties at 6-3.
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Re: B1G Divisional races after week 11
« Reply #21 on: November 15, 2022, 06:43:34 PM »
That is pretty amazing to me.  That division is a mess, and whoever wins may wish they hadn't.
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Re: B1G Divisional races after week 11
« Reply #22 on: November 15, 2022, 06:50:04 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on November 15, 2022, 06:43:34 PM
That is pretty amazing to me.  That division is a mess, and whoever wins may wish they hadn't.
I kinda was wishing Illinois or Purdue would wrap it up by now and go into the CCG with a halfway decent record.  At least Wisc, NW and Iowa have got their shot recently.  Time to give somebody else a chance.

Odds are still favoring Purdue to win because I don't believe ILL or Iowa will win their last 2 games.  At one point I was thinking at least Purdue could score some points against Mich or OSU,  but after seeing Purdue's offense lay an egg against Wisc and Iowa, I have little hope.  Maybe Jeff Brahm will surprise us all.
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Re: B1G Divisional races after week 11
« Reply #23 on: November 15, 2022, 07:01:05 PM »
If you think about it, maybe the best case scenario for the Big Ten is for ILL to upset Mich, then have Mich beat OSU, then have Mich avenge its only loss against ILL in the CCG. 

You may ask how is that better than Mich beating ILL first and  then beating Purdue in the CCG and finishing undefeated?  OK you got me there.  Never mind.  
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Re: B1G Divisional races after week 11
« Reply #24 on: November 15, 2022, 10:57:18 PM »
Quote from: LittlePig on November 15, 2022, 07:01:05 PM
If you think about it, maybe the best case scenario for the Big Ten is for ILL to upset Mich, then have Mich beat OSU, then have Mich avenge its only loss against ILL in the CCG. 

You may ask how is that better than Mich beating ILL first and  then beating Purdue in the CCG and finishing undefeated?  OK you got me there.  Never mind.
I'm not sure that any of this matters.

If the tOSU/M winner wins their other two games they'll obviously be in the CFP and they'll be either:
  • #1 if UGA loses, or
  • #2 if UGA is 13-0.
A fairly likely CFP scenario, I think, is:
  • 13-0 UGA, SEC Champion
  • 13-0 tOSU/M, B1G Champion
  • 13-0 TCU, B12 Champion
  • 12-1 USC, P12 Champion

I could end up regretting this but if tOSU is #2 there, I'd be happy to be playing TCU rather than USC anyway so I don't even know if we'd want the #1 seed.

Where it gets really goofy is if LSU upsets UGA in the B12CG, especially if the committee doesn't easily have room for two SEC teams. Possibly:
  • 13-0 tOSU/M, B1G Champion
  • 13-0 TCU, B12 Champion
  • 12-1 UGA, not a Champion
  • 12-1 USC, P12 Champion
With11-2 SEC Champion LSU left out along with 11-1 TN and the tOSU/M loser.
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Re: B1G Divisional races after week 11
« Reply #25 on: November 16, 2022, 01:22:47 AM »
Quote from: LittlePig on November 15, 2022, 06:42:29 PM
Nobody.  That's the beauty of tiebreakers. Assuming the division winner is 6-3,  then..

Purdue wins a 2-way tie with Illinois or Minn, but...

Iowa wins a 2-way tie with Purdue,  but...

Illinois wins a 2-way tie with Iowa or Minn, and...

Illinois wins a 3-way tie with Purdue and Iowa or Minn.

Minn essentially can't win any ties at 6-3.
Quote from: Cincydawg on November 15, 2022, 06:28:07 PM
Nobody controls their own density?
Iowa sort of does control its own destiny.
It is very unlikely Illinois defeats Michigan. It seems likely Iowa defeats Minnesota and Nebraska in unconvincing fashion.
Yet this scenario seems so humiliating because Iowa would face Michigan or Ohio State who would each stopIowa for 5-yards total offense in the championship game. Iowa would have to score at least 4 safeties to win, and probably 24 safeties just to be competitive.
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Re: B1G Divisional races after week 11
« Reply #26 on: November 16, 2022, 07:45:50 AM »
it's very likely Iowa defeats Nebraska

I don't feel it's likely to defeat the Gophers in Minnie

it might happen, but.........
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Re: B1G Divisional races after week 11
« Reply #27 on: November 16, 2022, 11:14:07 AM »
I know that at least @Brutus Buckeye will like this:

The most convoluted possible scenario I can come up with in the B1G-W is a 5-way tie at 5-4. Here is how it could happen:

  • Wisconsin has to win out (atUNL, vsMN).
  • Since Minnesota loses to Wisconsin in the Ax game, they have to beat Iowa for Floyd.
  • Since Iowa loses Floyd, they have to beat Nebraska on Black Friday.
  • Illinois (atM, atNU) and Purdue (vsNU, atIU) both split their last two games and it makes no difference which one they win so long as they each win one and lose one.
Minnesota, Illinois, Purdue, Iowa, and Wisconsin would all be 5-4. The first (and in this case decisive) tiebreaker is H2H2H2H2H and Illinois wins:
  • 3-1 Illinois: beat MN, IA, UW; lost to PU
  • 2-2 Purdue: beat MN, IL; lost to IA. UW
  • 2-2 Iowa: beat PU, UW: lost to MN, IL 
  • 2-2 Wisconsin: beat MN, PU; lost to IL, IA
  • 1-3 Minnesota: beat UW; lost to IL, PU, IA

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