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medinabuckeye1

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B1G Championships
« on: November 28, 2018, 09:51:04 AM »
As we all know, Northwestern and Ohio State will be playing for the B1G Championship on Saturday night.  

Northwestern will be attempting to win their ninth conference title and first since 2000.  Northwestern's last two (2000 and 1996) and six of their eight were co-championships which are, of course, no longer possible.  

Currently, Northwestern is tied with Purdue for eighth in all-time league titles.  With a win Saturday night they would move out of that tie and into a tie with Michigan State for seventh.  

Ohio State will be attempting to win their 37th conference title and first back-to-back titles since 2008-09.  Ohio State's last back-to-back outright titles were in 2006-2007.  

Currently, Ohio State is second in all-time league titles and tied for first since joining the league in 1913.  

Michigan holds the lead in all-time titles but Ohio State has been whittling away at their lead since Michigan's most recent title back in 2004.  At that time Michigan was 13 titles ahead of second place Ohio State and actually farther ahead of Ohio State than Ohio State was ahead of third place Minnesota.  

All time title leaders through the years:
  • Wisconsin won the first two league titles (1896 and 1897) and held the lead until Michigan tied them in 1902 and passed them in 1903.  
  • Michigan held the lead until Minnesota tied them in 1910 and passed them in 1911 (Incidentally, Michigan was out of the league at the time.  They left after the 1906 season and were out for 10 seasons from 1907 through 1916.)
  • Minnesota held the lead until Michigan tied them in 1922 and passed them in 1923.  
  • Michigan held the lead until Minnesota tied them in 1940 and passed them in 1941.  
  • Minnesota held the lead until Michigan tied them in 1943 and passed them in 1947.  
  • Michigan has held the lead since 1947.  

Michigan's current six-title lead over #2 is the smallest that it has been since prior to the 1973 season when they led Minnesota 24-18.  If Ohio State wins on Saturday, Michigan's lead will be down to five titles which would be the smallest their lead has been since prior to the 1972 season when they led Minnesota 23-18.  

Since Penn State joined (1993-2017):
  • 11 titles:  Ohio State
  • 6 titles:  Wisconsin
  • 5 titles:  Michigan
  • 4 titles:  Penn State
  • 3 titles:  Northwestern
  • (tie) 3 titles:  Michigan State
  • 2 titles:  Iowa
  • 1 title:  Illinois
  • (tie) 1 title:  Purdue

Since Michigan State joined (1953-20017):
  • 28 titles:  Ohio State
  • 22 titles:  Michigan
  • 9 titles:  Michigan State
  • 8 titles:  Wisconsin
  • (tie) 8 titles:  Iowa
  • 5 titles:  Illinois
  • 4 titles:  Penn State
  • 3 titles:  Northwestern
  • 2 titles:  Purdue
  • (tie) 2 titles:  Minnesota
  • 1 title:  Indiana

Since Michigan rejoined the conference (1917-2017):
  • 36 titles:  Michigan
  • 35 titles:  Ohio State
  • 12 titles:  Illinois
  • 10 titles:  Iowa
  • (tie) 10 titles:  Minnesota
  • 9 titles:  Wisconsin
  • (tie) 9 titles:  Michigan State
  • 8 titles:  Purdue
  • 7 titles:  Northwestern
  • 4 titles:  Penn State
  • 2 titles:  Indiana
  • (tie) 2 titles:  Chicago

Since Ohio State joined the conference (1913-2017):
  • 36 titles:  Ohio State
  • (tie) 36 titles:  Michigan
  • 14 titles:  Illinois
  • 11 titles:  Minnesota
  • 10 titles:  Iowa
  • 9 titles:  Wisconsin
  • (tie) 9 titles:  Michigan State
  • 8 titles:  Purdue
  • 7 titles:  Northwestern
  • 4 titles:  Penn State
  • 3 titles:  Chicago
  • 2 titles:  Indiana

All-time (1896-2017):
  • 42 titles:  Michigan (2004 last)
  • 36 titles:  Ohio State (2017 last)
  • 18 titles:  Minnesota (1967 last)
  • 15 titles:  Illinois (2001 last)
  • 14 titles:  Wisconsin (2012 last)
  • 11 titles:  Iowa (2004 last)
  • 9 titles:  Michigan State (2015 last)
  • 8 titles:  Northwestern (2000 last, 1996 before that)
  • 8 titles:  Purdue (2000 last, 1967 before that)
  • 7 titles:  Chicago (1924 last)
  • 4 titles:  Penn State (2016 last)
  • 2 titles:  Indiana (1967 last)

Source, B1G Media Guide.  

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Re: B1G Championships
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2018, 09:56:41 AM »
All three of Northwestern's modern championships happened during years that they didn't have to play OSU, but beat Michigan. 
1919, 20, 21, 28, 29, 31, 34, 35, 36, 37, 42, 44
WWH: 1952, 54, 55, 57, 58, 60, 61, 62, 63, 65, 67, 68, 70, 72, 74, 75
1979, 81, 82, 84, 87, 94, 98
2001, 02, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19

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Re: B1G Championships
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2018, 10:53:17 AM »
most interesting part of this thread is learning mich/osu weren't always members of the bigten. and that osu wasn't a founding member.

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Re: B1G Championships
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2018, 10:56:20 AM »
most interesting part of this thread is learning mich/osu weren't always members of the bigten. and that osu wasn't a founding member.
What more would you like to know? Nebraska was turned down for membership a number of times. So was Notre Dame. So were a shit-ton of schools.
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Re: B1G Championships
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2018, 11:05:41 AM »
Lake Forest?
1919, 20, 21, 28, 29, 31, 34, 35, 36, 37, 42, 44
WWH: 1952, 54, 55, 57, 58, 60, 61, 62, 63, 65, 67, 68, 70, 72, 74, 75
1979, 81, 82, 84, 87, 94, 98
2001, 02, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19

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Re: B1G Championships
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2018, 11:18:03 AM »
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Re: B1G Championships
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2018, 11:18:19 AM »
What more would you like to know? Nebraska was turned down for membership a number of times. So was Notre Dame. So were a shit-ton of schools.
Ya but ND returned the favor and rebuffed the BIG later.IMO from a regional footprint standpoint it would have been nice to add ND after PSU in '94 or just add Mizzou when UNL was added.Or just go back to pre-'94
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Re: B1G Championships
« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2018, 11:20:52 AM »
most interesting part of this thread is learning mich/osu weren't always members of the bigten. and that osu wasn't a founding member.
Think tOSU was added when Chicago left or perhaps when M left for a few years
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Re: B1G Championships
« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2018, 11:27:21 AM »

Think tOSU was added when Chicago left or perhaps when M left for a few years
OSU joined around the time UM left, but I'm not sure if that was a coincidence or not.  Chicago hung around for a while.  I think MSU was more the replacement for Chicago.

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« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2018, 11:31:34 AM »
Lake Forest?
Lake Forest was part of the initial meetings but decided to remain a small regional school rather than go B1G. Much of the Chicago brass wanted the same thing (minus the regional part), but Amos had a lot of pull back in those days. The brass eventually won out, and yes, MSU was the replacement for Chicago.
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Re: B1G Championships
« Reply #10 on: November 28, 2018, 11:34:12 AM »
Indiana and Iowa were also added later, but before OSU.
1919, 20, 21, 28, 29, 31, 34, 35, 36, 37, 42, 44
WWH: 1952, 54, 55, 57, 58, 60, 61, 62, 63, 65, 67, 68, 70, 72, 74, 75
1979, 81, 82, 84, 87, 94, 98
2001, 02, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19

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Re: B1G Championships
« Reply #11 on: November 28, 2018, 11:35:50 AM »
Ya but ND returned the favor and rebuffed the BIG later.IMO from a regional footprint standpoint it would have been nice to add ND after PSU in '94 or just add Mizzou when UNL was added.Or just go back to pre-'94
Correct. Right when PSU joined, Texas wanted in too. The presidents decided to put a "moratorium" on any further expansion (they were holding out for ND to come knocking). 

In 1997, the ND faculty voted to join the Big Ten by a very wide margin. The AD and alumni carried more weight, and ND remains independent to this day (for football only*).

* The ACC is making them play, what, 4-5 games against their teams every year?
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Re: B1G Championships
« Reply #12 on: November 28, 2018, 11:37:00 AM »
Indiana and Iowa were also added later, but before OSU.
Yes, in 1899. The charters were Minnesota, Wisconsin, Northwestern, Chicago, Illinois, Purdue and Michigan. It was the Purdue president's idea originally.
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Re: B1G Championships
« Reply #13 on: November 28, 2018, 11:39:24 AM »
https://fbschedules.com/acc-notre-dame-football-opponents-2037/

Five ACC opponents per year.

I don't quite get this scheme.

 

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