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medinabuckeye1

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Re: B1G Championships - stats and whatnot
« Reply #14 on: June 11, 2018, 01:04:23 PM »
Shortest to longest current title droughts (while in the league):
  • 0 seasons, Ohio State
  • 1 season, 2017, Penn State
  • 2 seasons, 2016-2017, Michigan State
  • 4 seasons, 2014-2017, Rutgers^
  • tie 4 seasons, 2014-2017, Maryland^
  • 5 seasons, 2013-2017, Wisconsin*
  • 7 seasons, 2011-2017, Nebraska*^
  • 13 seasons, 2005-2017, Iowa*
  • tie 13 seasons, 2005-2017, Michigan
  • 16 seasons, 2002-2017, Illinois
  • 17 seasons, 2001-2017, Northwestern
  • tie 17 seasons, 2001-2017, Purdue
  • 50 seasons, 1968-2017, Indiana
  • tie 50 seasons, 1968-2017, Minnesota

*Wisconsin, Nebraska, and Iowa have all been to, but lost CG's since their most recent league titles.  

^ Rutgers, Maryland, and Nebraska have never won a league title in THIS league so the times listed for them are since they began B1G play.  

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Re: B1G Championships - stats and whatnot
« Reply #15 on: June 11, 2018, 02:15:15 PM »
Longest title droughts ever (list includes all 10 or more year droughts):
  • 58 seasons 1937-1994 Northwestern
  • 50 seasons 1968-2017 Minnesota
  • tie 50 seasons 1968-2017 Indiana
  • 45 seasons 1900-1944 Indiana
  • 39 seasons 1913-1951 Wisconsin
  • 33 seasons 1923-1955 Iowa
  • 32 seasons 1968-1999 Purdue
  • 30 seasons 1963-1992 Wisconsin
  • 22 seasons 1904-1925 Northwestern
  • tie 22 seasons 1896-1917 Purdue
  • 21 seasons 1946-1966 Indiana
  • 20 seasons 1961-1980 Iowa
  • tie 20 seasons 1901-1920 Iowa
  • 19 seasons 1964-1982 Illinois
  • tie 19 seasons 1991-2009 Michigan State
  • 18 seasons 1942-1959 Minnesota
  • 17 seasons 1929-1945 Illinois
  • tie 17 seasons 2001-2017 Northwestern
  • tie 17 seasons 2001-2017 Purdue
  • 16 seasons 2002-2017 Illinois
  • 15 seasons 1925-1939 Chicago
  • 14 seasons 1921-1934 Ohio State
  • tie 14 seasons 1896-1909 Illinois
  • tie 14 seasons 1953-1966 Purdue
  • 13 seasons 2005-2017 Michigan
  • tie 13 seasons 1951-1963 Michigan
  • tie 13 seasons 2005-2017 Iowa
  • 11 seasons 1916-1926 Minnesota
  • tie 11 seasons 1991-2001 Iowa
  • tie 11 seasons 1967-1977 Michigan State
  • tie 11 seasons 1954-1964 Michigan State
  • 10 seasons 1991-2000 Illinois
  • tie 10 seasons 2000-2009 Wisconsin
  • tie 10 seasons 1933-1942 Purdue
  • tie 10 seasons 1919-1928 Purdue
  • tie 10 seasons 1995-2004 Penn State  
Current droughts are in bold.  

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Re: B1G Championships - stats and whatnot
« Reply #16 on: June 11, 2018, 02:46:47 PM »
There's a pretty good chance that Indiana and/or Minnesota can break Northwestern's record. 
1919, 20, 21, 28, 29, 31, 34, 35, 36, 37, 42, 44
WWH: 1952, 54, 55, 57, 58, 60, 61, 62, 63, 65, 67, 68, 70, 72, 74, 75
1979, 81, 82, 84, 87, 94, 98
2001, 02, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19

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Re: B1G Championships - stats and whatnot
« Reply #17 on: June 11, 2018, 02:57:23 PM »
There's a pretty good chance that Indiana and/or Minnesota can break Northwestern's record.
Indiana is a virtual lock to break that one. Minnesota - I wouldn't call them a lock to do it, but it's very likely.
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Re: B1G Championships - stats and whatnot
« Reply #18 on: June 11, 2018, 03:22:20 PM »
It's also harder to break the streak without co-championships.

If we removed the CCGs...

2011 would flip from Wisconsin to Michigan State
2012 would flip from Wisconsin to Nebraska
2013 would add Ohio State as co-champs with Michigan State
2015 would flip from Michigan State to Iowa
2016 would add Ohio State as co-champs with Penn State
2017 would flip from Ohio State to Wisconsin

So in just 7 years, 4 would flip, 2 would add a co-champ, 1 (2014) stays the same.

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Re: B1G Championships - stats and whatnot
« Reply #19 on: June 11, 2018, 05:35:27 PM »
It's also harder to break the streak without co-championships.
That is a huge difference.  I pointed out in the original post that prior to the CG we averaged almost 1.5 Champions per year.  Looking at current droughts:
  • Indiana/Minnesota's 50 drought is since a three-way shared Championship also shared with Purdue.  
  • Purdue/Northwestern's 17 year drought is since a three-way shared Championship also shared with Michigan.  
  • Iowa/Michigan's 13 year drought is since a co-championship shared between those two.  

If we eliminated the CG's then:
  • Ohio State's zero year drought would grow to one year.  
  • Wisconsin's five year drought would shrink to zero years.  
  • Iowa's 13 year drought would shrink to two years.  
  • Michigan State's two year drought would grow to four years.  
  • Nebraska's seven year drought would shrink to five years.  

The "no CG" list is:
  • 0 seasons, Wisconsin
  • 1 season, 2017, Penn State
  • tie 1 season, 2017, Ohio State
  • 2 seasons, 2016-2017, Iowa
  • 4 seasons, 2014-2017, Michigan State
  • tie 4 seasons, 2014-2017, Rutgers
  • tie 4 seasons, 2014-2017, Maryland
  • 5 seasons, 2013-2017, Nebraska
  • 13 seasons, 2005-2017, Michigan
  • 16 seasons, 2002-2017, Illinois
  • 17 seasons, 2001-2017, Northwestern
  • 17 seasons, 2001-2017, Purdue
  • 50 seasons, 1968-2017, Indiana
  • 50 seasons, 1968-2017, Minnesota

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Re: B1G Championships - stats and whatnot
« Reply #20 on: June 11, 2018, 05:38:06 PM »
Indiana is a virtual lock to break that one. Minnesota - I wouldn't call them a lock to do it, but it's very likely.
I think it is extraordinarily likely that Indiana and Minnesota together will first tie, then surpass Northwestern's 58 year title drought.  My guess is that if we look at this again after the 2026 season:
  • Indiana/Minnesota will have 59 year droughts.  
  • Northwestern/Purdue will have 26 year droughts.  
  • Illinois will have a 25 year drought.  

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Re: B1G Championships - stats and whatnot
« Reply #21 on: June 11, 2018, 06:05:05 PM »
I dunno. I think NU might be able to crack the top of the West. Not sure if that means they can beat OSU though. They haven't done it since 2004, and before that, 1971. Not that those years matter, but still. Beating OSU, for any team, is a rough go.
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« Reply #22 on: June 11, 2018, 07:22:24 PM »
I didn't realize the West champ was 0-4 since you guys got rid of the Legends and Leaders crap.  
The SEC West started out 1-6 in our CCG, and was behind 10-5 fifteen years in, but thanks to a recent 8-game streak, are now leading by 2.  

I wonder if wild, 5-10 year swings will be the norm moving forward.  I'll look at the PAC.
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« Reply #23 on: June 11, 2018, 07:24:25 PM »
Hmm, the PAC North started out 6-0 before losing this past year.  Interesting.  

Things don't look good for the B10 West for at least 2 more years.....
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« Reply #24 on: June 11, 2018, 09:36:15 PM »
The Badgers could be pretty good

and the chance of an upset always exists
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« Reply #25 on: June 11, 2018, 09:43:22 PM »
I saw a woman with a  Michigan 2005 Rose Bowl shirt on yesterday.   Made me want to dig into my closet for a 1994 NC night shirt I catch my wife wearing from time to time.

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« Reply #26 on: June 11, 2018, 10:03:53 PM »
I have 3 Husker Rose Bowl shirts in my closet

bought them 3 for $21 the day after the game
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« Reply #27 on: June 12, 2018, 12:50:46 PM »
I dunno. I think NU might be able to crack the top of the West. Not sure if that means they can beat OSU though. They haven't done it since 2004, and before that, 1971. Not that those years matter, but still. Beating OSU, for any team, is a rough go.
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