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Cincydawg

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Average Number of Undefeateds by Week
« on: October 09, 2017, 11:10:05 AM »
https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2017/8/2/16081440/unbeaten-teams-at-this-point-in-the-season-normal-average

We're at 13, just above the mean of 12.  We should be at 2-3 by the time of the final FF selections.

This includes non-P5s.

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Re: Average Number of Undefeateds by Week
« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2017, 11:13:04 AM »
I think the AAC has 3, so that'll get trimmed.  San Diego State is looking pretty, MWC doesn't look very good this year.  I think they get Boise State this week, who while usually the stiffest competition, looks somewhat unremarkable this year.
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Re: Average Number of Undefeateds by Week
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2017, 11:21:21 AM »
What happens if Navy is undefeated going into Army week? 

The playoff selection committee is required to make their selections before that game takes place. 

Obviously an undefeated service academy would, at the very least, find themselves on the bubble, after receiving their Patriotic bump. 

But they can't really put them in, since they might lose their rivalry game. 
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Re: Average Number of Undefeateds by Week
« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2017, 11:24:55 AM »
I looked at the top ten after week 6 last season.  The Final Four were all in the top five.  Several of the others faded rather badly from that point.  

October 10, 2016 AP Football Poll

[th]Rank[/th]
[th]Team (FPV)[/th]
[th]Conf[/th]
[th]W-L[/th]
[th]Points[/th]
[th]3WT[/th]
[th]CP[/th]
[th]Last Week[/th]

1
< 1
Alabama (56)
SEC
6-0
1520
0
*1
W 49-30 A #16 Arkansas

2
< 2
Ohio State (2)
Big Ten
5-0
1444
0
*2
W 38-17 H Indiana

3
< 3
Clemson (2)
ACC
6-0
1406
+2
*3
W 56-10 A Boston College

4
< 4
Michigan (1)
Big Ten
6-0
1339
0
4
W 78-0 A Rutgers

5
< 5
Washington
Pac-12
6-0
1286
+5
5
W 70-21 A Oregon

6
< 8
Texas A&M
SEC
6-0
1202
+3
6
W 45-38 (2OT) H #9 Tennessee

7
< 7
Louisville
ACC
4-1
1193
-4
7
DNP

8
< 11
Wisconsin
Big Ten
4-1
1020
0
10
DNP

9
< 9
Tennessee
SEC
5-1
962
+2
11
L 45-38 (2OT) A #8 Texas A&M

10
< 12
Nebraska
Big Ten
5-0
958
+5
9
DNP


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Re: Average Number of Undefeateds by Week
« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2017, 11:27:58 AM »
If we go back another year, same kind of thing except Oklahoma had just lost and dropped from 10 to 19.

October 11, 2015 AP Football Poll
[th]Rank[/th]
[th]Team (FPV)[/th]
[th]Conf[/th]
[th]W-L[/th]
[th]Points[/th]
[th]3WT[/th]
[th]CP[/th]
[th]Last Week[/th]
1< 1Ohio State (27)Big Ten6-014110*1W 49-28 H Maryland
2< 3Baylor (13)Big 125-01390+3*2W 66-7 A Kansas
3< 2TCU (3)Big 126-01354+1*3W 52-45 A Kansas State
4< 5Utah (16)Pac-125-01350+6*7W 30-24 H #23 California
5< 6Clemson (1)ACC5-01260+76W 43-24 H Georgia Tech
6< 7LSUSEC5-01231+3*5W 45-24 A South Carolina (Baton Rouge)
7< 4Michigan StateBig Ten6-01139-5*4W 31-24 A Rutgers
8< 11FloridaSEC6-01075+1711W 21-3 A Missouri
9< 9Texas A&M (1)SEC5-01046+510DNP
10< 8AlabamaSEC5-11034+39W 27-14 H Arkansas
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Re: Average Number of Undefeateds by Week
« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2017, 11:29:08 AM »
The odds are pretty good that the FF is all in the Top Ten right now, along with 4-5 teams about to fade out.
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Re: Average Number of Undefeateds by Week
« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2017, 11:45:38 AM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on October 09, 2017, 11:21:21 AM
What happens if Navy is undefeated going into Army week?

The playoff selection committee is required to make their selections before that game takes place.

Obviously an undefeated service academy would, at the very least, find themselves on the bubble, after receiving their Patriotic bump.

But they can't really put them in, since they might lose their rivalry game.
I wouldn't worry too much about it.  Navy still has UCF at home, plus trips to Houston and Notre Dame, then likely USF in the AAC title game, if they get through all of those other 3 undefeated.

And if they do that, that's not enough to deserve a CFP spot unless there are only 2 loss P5 teams to choose from, but I think it is enough that they'd deserve the Group of 5 spot even with a loss to Army.  Who else would deserve it?  They'd have beaten UCF and USF, and San Diego State, even undefeated, would still not have as good a resume as a Navy team that wins all of those games, but loses to Army.
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Re: Average Number of Undefeateds by Week
« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2017, 12:35:54 PM »
I concede that it's not a likely scenario, but it's far from impossible. 

Nobody gets more credit for beating bad teams than Navy, so if they did win a handful of halfway decent games they would certainly get their fair share of hype. 

Yet the rules are seemingly set up to automatically eliminate them from contention, even if they beat every team by 100. 
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Re: Average Number of Undefeateds by Week
« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2017, 04:53:10 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on October 09, 2017, 12:35:54 PM
I concede that it's not a likely scenario, but it's far from impossible.

Nobody gets more credit for beating bad teams than Navy, so if they did win a handful of halfway decent games they would certainly get their fair share of hype.

Yet the rules are seemingly set up to automatically eliminate them from contention, even if they beat every team by 100.
I'm just saying that even if it did happen, I don't think it's much of a conundrum.  That with a win they STILL wouldn't deserve a CFP bid most likely (it would take a number of 2 loss P5 teams being in the mix) and with a loss, I still would think they were the most deserving Go5 team for that NY6 bid.
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Re: Average Number of Undefeateds by Week
« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2017, 09:48:59 PM »
Going to post the updated thread tonight or tomorrow, but one intersting thing this early is that there were no undeafeated who played each other last week and we only have one possible game left between 2 until Thanksgiving (Cental Florida and Navy)
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Re: Average Number of Undefeateds by Week
« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2017, 09:45:44 PM »
The number of undefeateds keep dropping, and is under norm right now.
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