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Topic: Athlon's preseason top-25

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Re: Athlon's preseason top-25
« Reply #70 on: June 10, 2022, 10:28:32 AM »
I drove from LAX to northern SD and saw some of that, and then drove back, so no.

The traffic going down was bad, stop and go for miles and miles, wore me out.  I guess it's cheaper to fly to LAX than SD.
Not really, when you factor in cost of rental cars and the price of gas. And time. Time is important.
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Re: Athlon's preseason top-25
« Reply #71 on: June 10, 2022, 10:42:44 AM »
ATL --> LAX $638 in July.

ATL --> SDO  $738.

I filled up for about $70 near LAX.  Drive time was 2 hours except for going down traffic.  The $200 difference is not compensatory for me.

I have quite a few miles built up now.  And two companion tickets as well.

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Re: Athlon's preseason top-25
« Reply #72 on: June 10, 2022, 10:46:54 AM »
The Athlon thing, to me, is information overload.  I'm not sure it aids in assessing teams much at all.  I know the other mags have even more detail at times.  I was reading about "EPA" and couldn't find what it meant, like "EPA/rush", which would be something like -0.262.  

Some stats about UGA's team last season are not widely known, it seems, on offense, like a 0.264 EPA per pass, which ranked 6th nationally, whatever it is.


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Re: Athlon's preseason top-25
« Reply #73 on: June 10, 2022, 11:41:07 AM »
Michigan at No. 6?  Not sure what to think about that.  Michigan's offense will be good.  What they'll have for defense is anybody's guess.  Could be good, could be bad, best guess might be middle of the road Big Ten.  Thankfully Michigan has four weeks to iron things out before they play at Iowa.  They might end up in the top ten in January with some luck.
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Re: Athlon's preseason top-25
« Reply #74 on: June 10, 2022, 12:06:30 PM »
The Athlon thing, to me, is information overload.  I'm not sure it aids in assessing teams much at all.  I know the other mags have even more detail at times.  I was reading about "EPA" and couldn't find what it meant, like "EPA/rush", which would be something like -0.262. 

Some stats about UGA's team last season are not widely known, it seems, on offense, like a 0.264 EPA per pass, which ranked 6th nationally, whatever it is.
Showing my age:
One of the main reasons for getting and keeping a preseason magazine when I was younger was so that you could access schedules for every school.  

Back in the pre-internet age of my youth you couldn't just jump online and find a team's schedule and, of course, you never knew for certain when the season began which teams were going to do well.  

So at midseason, if say UGA was undefeated and ranked highly I'd check their schedule in my preseason magazine for two reasons:
  • To see how good their schedule had been so far:  Just reading "#3 Georgia, 6-0" in the newspaper doesn't tell you much without knowing what six teams they had defeated.  For example, last year UGA's first six games included three against ranked teams (#3 Clemson, #8 Arkansas, and #18 Auburn) but in 2018 their first six games only included one against a ranked team and that was a barely ranked USCe team that fell out of the rankings after losing to UGA.  Pre-internet I used my preseason magazine to check on things like this.  
  • To see what and when their toughest tests coming up were.  

Obviously those are not factors anymore since I can just look it up with a couple clicks.  


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Re: Athlon's preseason top-25
« Reply #75 on: June 10, 2022, 12:13:37 PM »
It is far far easier to see a team one thinks is ranked too highly than the reverse.  Note the comments herein for an example.

I agree the mags had some tangible value back in the day.  I still don't know what EPA/rush means.

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Re: Athlon's preseason top-25
« Reply #76 on: June 10, 2022, 12:14:07 PM »
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Re: Athlon's preseason top-25
« Reply #77 on: June 10, 2022, 12:38:04 PM »
It is far far easier to see a team one thinks is ranked too highly than the reverse.  Note the comments herein for an example.

I agree the mags had some tangible value back in the day.  I still don't know what EPA/rush means.
One of the magazines should have 4 blank spots in it's top 10, lol.  
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Re: Athlon's preseason top-25
« Reply #78 on: June 10, 2022, 12:40:18 PM »
Just reflecting back on the old days pre-internet and pre CFP and pre BCS so UGA was 6-0 and #1 in the 10/17/2021 poll.  My team, Ohio State, was 5-1 and #5.  

In our modern era the Buckeyes effectively controlled their own destiny to the NC because:

  • #1 UGA and #4 Bama couldn't both win out since they would have to play in the SECCG.  
  • #2 Cincy wouldn't have been likely to stay ahead of tOSU even if they finished undefeated so long as tOSU won out because the Buckeyes had a VASTLY tougher remaining schedule including (then) #6 M, #7 PSU, and #9 MSU.  
  • #3 OU controlled their own destiny to stay ahead of tOSU but either they or #8 OkSU would necessarily have to lose.  

In the old days with no CFP and no BCS I'd have been trying to find losses for:
  • #1 UGA
  • #2 Cincy (probably not necessary)
  • #3 OU
  • #4 Bama
  • #8 OkSU (undefeated)


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Re: Athlon's preseason top-25
« Reply #79 on: June 10, 2022, 01:36:27 PM »
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Re: Athlon's preseason top-25
« Reply #80 on: June 10, 2022, 01:41:33 PM »
I stayed in Carlsbad, about halfway between SD and LA this past weekend.  Drove all over the place because of stuff to do in both cities. 
San Diego weather is great.  I went downtown to check out a baseball card shop and there were crazy homeless people everywhere, so it's not immune to that problem.
I found that the 5, 405, and 10 were totally fine during off-hours.  I think the traffic being bad all the time thing is overblown.  But yeah, it's gridlock during rush hour times. 
The good thing if the 5 is packed is taking the Pacific Coast Highway, if you don't have that far to go.  It's scenic as hell.  Slow, lots of red lights, etc, but pretty (except for Long Beach). 
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I think I saw more Asian ladies than I previously had in my whole life.  My friend brought a bunch of masks because the hotel notice seemed obsessed with them, but we didn't have to wear them.  I think most of the notices and signs were out of date or people just didn't care anymore.  
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My friend's cousin is the head of photography or something at the Sony Pictures lot, so we got a nice, informal tour around there.  Saw all kinds of artifacts from movies and shows, and among all the stage buildings, etc.  The last one was the Jeopardy one, which was cool.  They put an Alex Trebek plaque on it and named the stage after him.  
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Re: Athlon's preseason top-25
« Reply #81 on: June 10, 2022, 01:49:55 PM »
I have family in Long Beach. It's actually Belmont Shores (LB address), and it's very nice there. There are good and bad parts of everywhere. To go to Belmont from the South, you would veer left off Highway 1 at 2nd Street (In-N-Out on the corner). Pretty cool area.
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Re: Athlon's preseason top-25
« Reply #82 on: June 10, 2022, 03:00:02 PM »
We did not care for SD weather except a few afternoons.  The morning haze would drive me crazy, and it was quite coolish.  My wife was just saying she'd glad to be back where it's warm (and about to be hot).

She claims to like hot weather.  OK, then.

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Re: Athlon's preseason top-25
« Reply #83 on: June 10, 2022, 03:13:31 PM »
C'mon down here. The humidity has checked in. Feels like 100 today. 

The OOL (there is no "P" in it) beckons.
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