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Topic: Army (1-1) at #7 Michigan (2-0, 0-0) Post Game

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bayareabadger

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Re: Army (1-1) at #7 Michigan (2-0, 0-0) Post Game
« Reply #42 on: September 08, 2019, 11:04:00 AM »
Quote from: Temp430 on September 08, 2019, 07:53:37 AM
No, Patterson is very accurate.  Best I’ve seen in long time.
Interesting. Every game I've watched closely, there's like 4-5 possible big plays where he just sails it. Just ones where he's tapping his chest at the end and saying "on me."
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Re: Army (1-1) at #7 Michigan (2-0, 0-0) Post Game
« Reply #43 on: September 08, 2019, 01:21:27 PM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on September 08, 2019, 11:04:00 AM
Interesting. Every game I've watched closely, there's like 4-5 possible big plays where he just sails it. Just ones where he's tapping his chest at the end and saying "on me."
He has sailed an unusual number in the last three halves. Of course, this is all since he got injured. I think that's the simplest explanation given that:


https://mobile.twitter.com/PFF_College/status/1095022914343264256?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1095022914343264256&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fmgoblog.com%2Fcontent%2Fpreview-2019-quarterback

and


https://mobile.twitter.com/PFF_College/status/1148233534676570112?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1148233534676570112&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fmgoblog.com%2Fcontent%2Fpreview-2019-quarterback
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Re: Army (1-1) at #7 Michigan (2-0, 0-0) Post Game
« Reply #44 on: September 08, 2019, 01:27:27 PM »
Quote from: Temp430 on September 08, 2019, 06:52:34 AM
Michigan’s DL is soft in the middle as expected.  Other than that no complaints about the defense.
Of Michigan's Big Ten DTs, 2 of 3 have missed most of the season to-date. And #1 has only had one snap. But yes, Mo Hurst, Willie Henry, and Ryan Glasgow aren't walking through the door. I hope the personnel at the end of the Army game tells us that the Ben Mason experiment is over, sans garbage time. Each of the DEs to try (Hutchinson, Paye, and Danna) did better when they stepped inside to replace him.
Mason is just too undersized and untechnical, so he bull rushes to compensate, and at this level it's easy to unbalance a guy like that. My "is this hyperbole of the day": Playing Mason as a M DT is an absurd tragedy.
Still, there's a big difference between the ladder rung below Hurst/Henry/Glasgow and the rungs way below that. And without Dwumfour and Jeter playing, we don't know which rung we have. A fair and optimistic take is that there's enough talent around the DT's for Michigan to have a winning defense if that rung is only one or two arbitrary units below Hurst/Henry/Glasgow.
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Re: Army (1-1) at #7 Michigan (2-0, 0-0) Post Game
« Reply #45 on: September 08, 2019, 01:38:57 PM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on September 08, 2019, 11:03:12 AM
I heard him say the plan was bad and that Josh Gattis needs to grow up as a play caller. Didn't hear him say, Jimmy is meddling.

I think he kinda undersold he RPO presence. The secret is that RPOs often look like runs up the middle. Because there's a run option, and that's what it is.
Re: that, I think the biggest problem in this game was that Shea was too injured for the appropriate number of keepers. And Army knew as soon as Michigan eliminated that option from the option plays.

I also agree if your point re: Harbaugh meddling is that there's no evidence that is true. In fact Fox Sports published a full game, 3.5hr "stare only at Harbaugh" video to YouTube and the evidence of any "meddling pattern" on offense is weak.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=mJybu18SdQg
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Re: Army (1-1) at #7 Michigan (2-0, 0-0) Post Game
« Reply #46 on: September 08, 2019, 02:12:24 PM »
Michigan's front suffered for two reasons, mainly: 

(1) Army could cheat up with 9 in the box and crashing LBs on standard downs once Shea's injury eliminated the keepers
(2) And after grading out well versus MTSU, RSFr Ryan Hayes (left tackle subbing for Runyan) had a rough day. Did every sack and Patterson turnover came from that side?
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Re: Army (1-1) at #7 Michigan (2-0, 0-0) Post Game
« Reply #47 on: September 08, 2019, 02:13:12 PM »
PFF thinks there was unsung work inside:

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Re: Army (1-1) at #7 Michigan (2-0, 0-0) Post Game
« Reply #48 on: September 08, 2019, 08:53:44 PM »
Quote from: Temp430 on September 08, 2019, 07:53:37 AM
No, Patterson is very accurate.  Best I’ve seen in long time.
Yet incredibly inaccurate with the throws that matter.
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Re: Army (1-1) at #7 Michigan (2-0, 0-0) Post Game
« Reply #49 on: September 08, 2019, 08:59:25 PM »
Quote from: SuperMario on September 08, 2019, 08:53:44 PM
Yet incredibly inaccurate with the throws that matter.
Rational poster, you are. Pot more, por favor.
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Re: Army (1-1) at #7 Michigan (2-0, 0-0) Post Game
« Reply #50 on: September 08, 2019, 09:01:15 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on September 08, 2019, 08:59:25 PM
 Pot more, por favor.
Huh?Are you still home alone?
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Re: Army (1-1) at #7 Michigan (2-0, 0-0) Post Game
« Reply #51 on: September 08, 2019, 09:52:14 PM »
Quote from: SuperMario on September 08, 2019, 08:53:44 PM
Yet incredibly inaccurate with the throws that matter.
Now *that* could be fair. Efficient on average but not in high leverage situations. I bet that was true last year. I'm not sure how to be quantitative about clutchness though, or how to know what is "national average" in it, etc.
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Re: Army (1-1) at #7 Michigan (2-0, 0-0) Post Game
« Reply #52 on: September 08, 2019, 09:54:46 PM »
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Re: Army (1-1) at #7 Michigan (2-0, 0-0) Post Game
« Reply #53 on: September 09, 2019, 08:01:50 AM »
Wind and Patterson playing with strained oblique obtained on first play of season which could explain temporary inaccuracy and the side arm passes.  Just wetting the whistle for the walk by the Wisconsin grave yard.
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Re: Army (1-1) at #7 Michigan (2-0, 0-0) Post Game
« Reply #54 on: September 09, 2019, 08:31:35 AM »
Quote from: Anonymous Coward on September 08, 2019, 09:54:46 PM
"Post"
Correct. I'm trying to be very careful, typing with one hand still, but that one slipped past me.
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Re: Army (1-1) at #7 Michigan (2-0, 0-0) Post Game
« Reply #55 on: September 09, 2019, 09:39:27 AM »
Quote from: Temp430 on September 09, 2019, 08:01:50 AM
Wind and Patterson playing with strained oblique obtained on first play of season which could explain temporary inaccuracy and the side arm passes.  Just wetting the whistle for the walk by the Wisconsin grave yard.
Bullshit. The kid is an accurate passer but what I’m noticing is he’s made for 7 on 7s and passing tournaments- not real football. His brain turns to chicken shit if he’s pressured or the first read isn’t there. He seems to shrink in the tight moments, not thrive in them. 

If the kid is hurt he shouldn’t be playing. If he’s that hurt where it’s affecting his passing then he needs to be on the bench and McCaffrey needs to be playing.
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