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rolltidefan

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Re: Arizona State allegations
« Reply #28 on: August 28, 2023, 03:23:40 PM »
Quote from: MaximumSam on August 28, 2023, 12:29:36 PM
Please yes give me pending litigation where a judge considers whether to order ASU to accept the Duke's Mayo Bowl bid
not sure if you're asking for source or genuinely curious to see it happen, but i was mistaken, kinda. i misread or misremembered and it's not that they are seeking a suit, but that someone on twitter said they should (jon wilner, don't know who that is, but apparently he's cfb journalist).
https://twitter.com/wilnerhotline/status/1695830962540888346?s=19
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Re: Arizona State allegations
« Reply #29 on: February 03, 2024, 01:14:57 PM »
After Tennessee didn't receive much of a punishment from the NCAA after admitting to 18 infractions that are similar to what Arizona State was under investigation for, I didn't think the Sun Devils would face much of a penalty once all was said and done. Looks like the investigation is close to a wrap:

"Arizona State and the NCAA are seeking to conclude negotiations on a resolution that would end a 2 ½-year investigation into alleged football recruiting violations within the Sun Devils program...The school is expected to agree to findings of major violations in the case, which revolves around recruits being brought on campus during the COVID-19 recruiting dead period in violation of NCAA rules. A further postseason ban is not expected to be among those penalties. ASU in August self-imposed a postseason ban for 2023 in hopes of mitigating future penalties."

"On the table are potential show-cause penalties against former coach Herm Edwards and members of his staff, sources tell CBS Sports. That group includes current Las Vegas Raiders coach Antonio Pierce, who is considered a central figure in the investigation. Recruiting sanctions and a fine imposed on the program are also possible for ASU."

"Tennessee recently faced similar NCAA violations. The Volunteers' case ended last summer with the program being put on probation, suffering recruiting sanctions and paying an $8 million fine. Despite admitted widespread Level I violations, Tennessee did not receive a postseason ban."


https://twitter.com/dennisdoddcbs/status/1753159547919761868
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Re: Arizona State allegations
« Reply #30 on: February 04, 2024, 04:02:46 PM »
The ASU thing is unique in that it was more ignoring altered COVID rules vs breaking the normal rules.  
May be tough to penalize with any confidence.
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Re: Arizona State allegations
« Reply #31 on: February 04, 2024, 06:50:56 PM »
Michigan just won a national championship while ignoring literally every rule that still exists.  If they hammer Arizona State, then Michigan....sorry, I meant Eastern Michigan, is toast
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Re: Arizona State allegations
« Reply #32 on: February 04, 2024, 08:11:58 PM »
Quote from: ELA on February 04, 2024, 06:50:56 PM
  If they hammer Arizona State, then Michigan....sorry, I meant Eastern Central Michigan, is toast
FIFY
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Re: Arizona State allegations
« Reply #33 on: April 20, 2024, 01:16:48 PM »
From the NCAA: "Arizona State and four individuals who previously worked for the school's football program have reached an agreement with the NCAA enforcement staff on recruiting violations that occurred within the program and the appropriate penalties for those violations...The committee will not discuss further details in the case to protect the integrity of the ongoing process, as the committee's final decision — including potential violations and penalties for other involved individuals — is still pending."

So far the agreed-upon penalties in this case include:
[1] four years of probation for the school
[2] a fine
[3] a self-imposed postseason ban for the 2023 football season
[4] vacation of records for contests in which ineligible student-athletes competed
[5] undisclosed number of scholarship reductions and...
[6] recruiting restrictions in alignment with the Level I-mitigated classification for the school. Additionally...
[7] the school disassociated an involved booster for a period of five years...


https://twitter.com/DevilsDigest/status/1781359737243865467
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Re: Arizona State allegations
« Reply #34 on: April 20, 2024, 11:42:41 PM »
If those are the penalties, it's no wonder why programs shoot their shot.  

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Re: Arizona State allegations
« Reply #35 on: April 21, 2024, 12:53:22 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on April 20, 2024, 11:42:41 PM
If those are the penalties, it's no wonder why programs shoot their shot. 


Ole Miss almost getting away with murder every year and yet there they are.  Their shenanigans make 80s SMU blush, yet there they are.
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Re: Arizona State allegations
« Reply #36 on: April 21, 2024, 06:41:21 AM »
What has Ole Miss been doing?
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Re: Arizona State allegations
« Reply #37 on: April 23, 2024, 09:34:09 AM »
“Senior Nebraska QB transfer Jeff Sims is currently visiting ASU, I’ve learned,” Karpman said via X. “Great size, impressive athlete and arm talent but struggled with turnovers in a few games last season. Before that, he was a three-year starter at Georgia Tech. He has 31 career TD passes and 29 INTs.”
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Re: Arizona State allegations
« Reply #38 on: April 26, 2024, 05:16:29 AM »
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Re: Arizona State allegations
« Reply #39 on: October 04, 2024, 03:09:40 PM »
NCAA imposes EIGHT YEAR show of cause on former ASU Assistant Antonio Pierce. The NCAA's press release reads as follows:

"The majority of the violations in this case stemmed from a scheme in which Pierce, other members of the football staff and a booster arranged unofficial visits to the school for roughly one year during the COVID-19 dead period. During those visits, which occurred over 15 weekends, staff members had impermissible recruiting contacts — including tryouts, football facility tours and entertainment — with 35 prospects and their families. Pierce arranged for or personally provided free meals, apparel, airfare and/or lodging for 27 prospects, often in collaboration with the booster, who was the parent of a then-football student-athlete in the program. In addition to violating the dead period rules, the meals, entertainment — which included taking a prospect's parents to a gentlemen's club — and travel expenses associated with the unofficial visits also constituted impermissible recruiting inducements."

"Several members of the coaching staff indicated during their interviews with enforcement staff that Pierce "ran the show" within the Arizona State football program, and they feared that not complying with Pierce's directives would result in losing their jobs."

"Finally, Pierce directed an assistant coach to engage in tampering by texting and calling a student-athlete who was enrolled at another school and was not in the Transfer Portal. The assistant coach sent the student-athlete 46 text messages and called him at least once, but the student-athlete ultimately did not transfer to Arizona State."

"After separating from Arizona State, Pierce failed on multiple occasions to meet his responsibility to cooperate."

I doubt Antonio Pierce who is now head coach of the Las Vegas Raiders is bothered by any of this. Even if the Raiders eventually cycle through Pierce, he'll have assistant gigs waiting for him across the NFL. So much of this seems so long ago - the NCAA's show causes would have more bite if they didn't take 4 years to deliver - 3 more years than it should take.


https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/1841877305108410587
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Re: Arizona State allegations
« Reply #40 on: October 04, 2024, 03:42:00 PM »
Damn, now nobody can hire proven shitty coach Antonio Pierce.

I think Arizona State should HAVE to employ him as HC for the next 8 years
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Re: Arizona State allegations
« Reply #41 on: October 04, 2024, 03:49:47 PM »
Has ASU been penalized by the NCAA yet?
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