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Topic: Are divisions good or bad strategy?

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FearlessF

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Re: Are divisions good or bad strategy?
« Reply #56 on: February 16, 2023, 10:00:55 PM »
what have the Trojans done lately to deserve that?

for better or worse
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Re: Are divisions good or bad strategy?
« Reply #57 on: February 16, 2023, 11:46:02 PM »
Quote from: LittlePig on February 13, 2023, 08:04:47 AM
Once you get to 20 schools,  the Big Ten should go with 10 conference games and go with 3 tiers of scheduling

4 schools you play every year
6 schools you play every other year (50% of the time)
9 schools you play every 3 years (33% of the time)

4 + 3/3 + 3/3/3
They used to play an unequal # of conference games. List of Big Ten Conference football standings (1959–present) - Wikipedia
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Re: Are divisions good or bad strategy?
« Reply #58 on: February 25, 2023, 09:40:26 AM »
Michigan is the only Big Ten program who does not have a Power 5 opponent on its nonconference schedule in 2023.

The Wolverines are also 1 of only 9 FBS teams nationally where that applies. the other programs who won’t face Power 5 opposition outside of conference play are: Air Force, Boston College, Houston, Liberty, Oklahoma, Oregon State, UCF and UCLA. That’s according to an analysis from FBSchedules.com.

Of course, Michigan was originally scheduled to face UCLA in 2022 and 2023. However, the Wolverines canceled the series back in 2019 — prior to the Bruins’ agreement to join the Big Ten.

Michigan replaced UCLA with a home game vs. East Carolina for this upcoming season. This will be the Wolverines’ 1st-ever meeting with the Pirates in football.

Michigan also did not play a P5 regular season nonconference game in 2022. Instead, it took on UConn, Hawaii and Colorado State. Michigan won those 3 games by a combined score of 166-17.
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Re: Are divisions good or bad strategy?
« Reply #59 on: February 25, 2023, 06:15:05 PM »
Wow, 2 years in a row?
UM fans are never allowed to talk shit about SEC scheduling ever again.
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Re: Are divisions good or bad strategy?
« Reply #60 on: February 25, 2023, 06:22:16 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on February 25, 2023, 06:15:05 PM
Wow, 2 years in a row?
UM fans are never allowed to talk shit about SEC scheduling ever again.
Not like I want to carry water for the Wolverines, but they play 9 conference games and have no FCS teams on the schedule. 

Come back at us when the SEC has 9 conference games and no FCS. 

I will say, at least your Gators scheduled their FCS bodybag game early in the season. Not like 'Bama who have it the week before the Iron Bowl. 
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Re: Are divisions good or bad strategy?
« Reply #61 on: February 25, 2023, 07:52:16 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on February 25, 2023, 06:15:05 PM
Wow, 2 years in a row?
best two years for Jimmy  - ever
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Re: Are divisions good or bad strategy?
« Reply #62 on: February 25, 2023, 08:45:44 PM »
Florida has played the 12th-game cupcake the week before FSU, so that's no different.
I love the idea that an FCS team is 'worse' than a MAC team.

Either a team has a <1% chance of beating you or it doesn't.  All MAC, Sun Belt, and FCS teams belong in that group.  They are practically all the same that way.  Distinguishing between them is a waste of time and unproductive.

The age-old 9 conf games vs 8 conf games is stupid.  The B1G has chosen to play 9 conf games WITH NO ONE TELLING THEM THEY HAVE TO.
That's on them.  Inventing an extra obstacle to a great season is a strange way of trying to have a great season.
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Re: Are divisions good or bad strategy?
« Reply #63 on: February 25, 2023, 09:34:53 PM »
As far as chances to win, yes.  As far as taxation on the opposing roster, particularly that deep into the season, no
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Re: Are divisions good or bad strategy?
« Reply #64 on: February 25, 2023, 09:42:25 PM »
I've just never experienced so much bitching about something that didn't break any rules.  
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Re: Are divisions good or bad strategy?
« Reply #65 on: February 25, 2023, 10:34:18 PM »
are you sure about that?

I think not
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Re: Are divisions good or bad strategy?
« Reply #66 on: February 25, 2023, 11:09:50 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on February 25, 2023, 09:40:26 AM
Michigan is the only Big Ten program who does not have a Power 5 opponent on its nonconference schedule in 2023.
Appy St and Toledo say hello
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Re: Are divisions good or bad strategy?
« Reply #67 on: February 25, 2023, 11:55:19 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on February 25, 2023, 08:45:44 PM
I love the idea that an FCS team is 'worse' than a MAC team.

Either a team has a <1% chance of beating you or it doesn't.  All MAC, Sun Belt, and FCS teams belong in that group.  They are practically all the same that way.  
Eh. I'd say the number of MAC upsets vs FCS upsets is meaningful. 

I can say for my own team, I'm fairly certain that Purdue has NEVER lost to an FCS team. We have lost to MAC teams. And we're basically low-P5, not like Michigan. 
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Re: Are divisions good or bad strategy?
« Reply #68 on: February 26, 2023, 09:05:14 AM »
Do the research, find out.  
But again, a Purdue can have lost to a couple of MAC teams over the decades and zero FCS teams, but both may be below 1%.
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Re: Are divisions good or bad strategy?
« Reply #69 on: February 26, 2023, 12:14:22 PM »
Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on February 25, 2023, 06:22:16 PM
Not like I want to carry water for the Wolverines, but they play 9 conference games and have no FCS teams on the schedule.

Come back at us when the SEC has 9 conference games and no FCS.

I will say, at least your Gators scheduled their FCS bodybag game early in the season. Not like 'Bama who have it the week before the Iron Bowl.
This shit again?  The SEC already plays the toughest schedule in the toughest league.  No need to make it any more difficult than it already is.  Besides, the 9th game would not mean anything when it's Vanderbilt or South Carolina.  

I'm assuming we do go to a 9 game schedule soon with UT/OU coming on-board, but I have never had any issues with the current setup.  
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