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bayareabadger

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Re: All-Time OSU help
« Reply #70 on: February 18, 2021, 01:27:40 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on February 18, 2021, 01:17:47 PM
The insinuation that anything short of giving JT Barrett slow head means that you think that he is a terrible college QB, and that Urban Meyer is a "dunce" that doesn't know anything about football.

Come on man, you are better than that. JT Barret was a great College QB, but so was Jones, Miller, Haskins and Burrow.

OSU generally has more than one serviceable QB at a time. This ain't Wisconsin. Produce, or GTFO. "Next man up."
FFS. 

Your team started a great college QB for most of four years. Perhaps he was not the greatest college QB. Despite the excellence of one of the best coaches of all time, perhaps he was not the greatest picker between great QBs. Happy now?

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« Reply #71 on: February 18, 2021, 01:38:47 PM »
I like that the insider knows what me (the outsider) doesn't know, but the insider can't fathom the HC knows more than him. It's adorbs.
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Re: All-Time OSU help
« Reply #72 on: February 18, 2021, 01:40:23 PM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on February 18, 2021, 01:27:40 PM
FFS.

Your team started a great college QB for most of four years. Perhaps he was not the greatest college QB. Despite the excellence of one of the best coaches of all time, perhaps he was not the greatest picker between great QBs. Happy now?




He is indeed one of the greatest HCs of all time, but even the best HCs have strengths and weaknesses. 

One of Urbans weaknesses was being loyal to a fault. In fact it eventually cost him his OSU gig. 
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Re: All-Time OSU help
« Reply #73 on: February 18, 2021, 01:40:54 PM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on February 18, 2021, 01:12:07 PM
Dabo figured it out took every thing away underneath to the tune of 31-0.
Clemson didn’t really figure anything out. They just ran their normal defense.
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« Reply #74 on: February 18, 2021, 01:41:08 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on February 18, 2021, 11:56:22 AM
JT sucked that year too. He lost a home game vs MSU's backup QB, FFS.
See, here I am thinking he lost to MSU's defense.  
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« Reply #75 on: February 18, 2021, 01:41:54 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on February 18, 2021, 01:40:23 PM

He is indeed one of the greatest HCs of all time, but even the best HCs have strengths and weaknesses.

One of Urbans weaknesses was being loyal to a fault. In fact it eventually cost him his OSU gig.
Or his offense relies on a running threat at QB.  And he had one.  So he played him.  
GASP
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« Reply #76 on: February 18, 2021, 01:47:29 PM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on February 18, 2021, 01:27:40 PM
FFS.

Your team started a great college QB for most of four years. Perhaps he was not the greatest college QB. Despite the excellence of one of the best coaches of all time, perhaps he was not the greatest picker between great QBs. Happy now?
Well URBZ coddled Zack Smith for how long at FLA/tOSU?Then he called bullshit when Brett McMurphy brought it up,so things like that sort of blew up in his face and circled around and bit him in the ass occasionally.C'mon his tenure at FLA wasn't smooth sledding either.BABs people were pissed that an innovative coach just stood pat - like he couldn't even be bothered.Many surmised JT had his party pictures.For instance JT got opportunity as a RS FR yet Haskins was a Soph holding the clip board?Not cool
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on February 18, 2021, 01:38:47 PM
I like that the insider knows what me (the outsider) doesn't know, but the insider can't fathom the HC knows more than him. It's adorbs.
Put the pipe down Fauntleroy as everyone but you can acknowledge there was huge descrepency in the abilities of that QB roster.NFL scouts/coaches are full of shit?JT can't even stick to a practice squad the other two went in the 1st round but in your land of make believe that doesn't matter
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Re: All-Time OSU help
« Reply #77 on: February 18, 2021, 01:49:15 PM »
No, pure "arm talent" shouldn't be the deciding factor in which QB to start for a college team.  Yes, it seems to be the only thing NFL teams care about.  
No, these aren't one and the same situations.  But I'm the blind one.
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« Reply #78 on: February 18, 2021, 01:49:30 PM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on February 18, 2021, 01:40:54 PM
Clemson didn’t really figure anything out. They just ran their normal defense.
Okay for the 3-4 weeks they had to prepare for the CFPO they changed nothing and watched no film - gotcha
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Re: All-Time OSU help
« Reply #79 on: February 18, 2021, 01:49:41 PM »
See the funny thing here is that I was never even "bench JT" guy. I realize that roster decisions are outside of my control, and as such I tend to just go with the flow. 

Yet here, merely acknowledging that "bench JT" guy may have had a legitimate gripe or two way back when, all of a sudden that automatically means that I hate JT Barrett and think that I am smarter than Urban Meyer, who I believe to be a bad HC. 

It is like Kindergarten up in here sometimes. 
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Re: All-Time OSU help
« Reply #80 on: February 18, 2021, 01:50:05 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on February 18, 2021, 01:40:23 PM

He is indeed one of the greatest HCs of all time, but even the best HCs have strengths and weaknesses.

One of Urbans weaknesses was being loyal to a fault. In fact it eventually cost him his OSU gig.
That is probably most coaches.

It’s funny that earlier you said this isn’t Wisconsin in reference to this. Because I think UW Has had functionally similar debates like seven times since my time on campus. I think I’ve seen it at just about every SEC school. Now the main difference is that Ohio State does have considerably better back ups.
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« Reply #81 on: February 18, 2021, 01:51:23 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on February 18, 2021, 01:49:15 PM
  But I'm the blind one.
Admitting you have a problem is the 1st step in fixing it.And perhaps some Prozac
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Re: All-Time OSU help
« Reply #82 on: February 18, 2021, 01:55:12 PM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on February 18, 2021, 01:50:05 PM
 Now the main difference is that Ohio State does have considerably better back ups.
That seems to be the theme of the discussion.Specially when one broke most of the single season Big Ten Records in his only full season under center.And the other well he got sick of waiting transferred and won a NC.And it was brought up before they did either
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Re: All-Time OSU help
« Reply #83 on: February 18, 2021, 02:01:25 PM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on February 18, 2021, 01:49:30 PM
Okay for the 3-4 weeks they had to prepare for the CFPO they changed nothing and watched no film - gotcha
Never said the didn’t watch film. Heavily implied that I watch film.

i’m sure they threw on the film and said this Ohio State team is just a great matchup for us. They are not going to force us to change up much at all.

The Clemson defense works something like this. Drop a safety so you can get a box advantage. Press on the outside. Keep your coverages simple and hit them with exotic blitz packages in the box. Tell opponents that if they’re going to beat you it’s going to be over-the-top. That’s how they operate every day. It just so happened the Buckeyes didn’t have the tools to be that’s for of teamIt just so happened the buckeyes didn’t have the tools to beat that sort of team. Also, that Clemson defense was really really good and that OSU offense was not.
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