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Topic: All-Time Greats Per Program

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MikeDeTiger

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Re: All-Time Greats Per Program
« Reply #56 on: April 04, 2025, 09:37:10 AM »
If fan-service is important, consider this for LSU. 

Keep Hodson, take out Russell.  Hodson is still adored, and probably rightly so.  Russell, despite how good he became, never shook off his reputation with fans for being late over the middle.  Also, Hodson keeps a nice "career-guy" balance with the "brief burning star" guys in Burrow and Daniels.  

You could go:  Burrow, Daniels, Hodson, Jones.  
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Re: All-Time Greats Per Program
« Reply #57 on: April 04, 2025, 08:59:26 PM »
1-year fantastical guys make this all so hard.  I wish there was a consensus that you rank 1-year guys like Newton and Barry Sanders separate from everyone else.  There's no "right" way to compare them all together.

Being a shooting star in a year is exceptional and special, of course.  But it's not the same as 2-3-4 years of excellence.  Volume matters, too.
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Re: All-Time Greats Per Program
« Reply #58 on: April 04, 2025, 09:04:37 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on April 04, 2025, 09:35:20 AM
I figured it was "A", just wondered
I don't feel like I'm being stubborn and insisting on old-school guys for no reason.  I just value an array of eras when it comes to all-time teams.  

As for my customers, I feel like part of the reason they buy my game (unrelated to all-time teams) is that I offer teams going way back.  Many, obviously, buy teams they remember from their personal sweet spot of watching and loving college football.  This seems to range from the late-60s to the early-80s.  It just makes sense that they'd value a good QB from back then compared to a guy in the 2010s who had over twice the pass attempts while never throwing the ball more than 15 yards downfield.
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Re: All-Time Greats Per Program
« Reply #59 on: April 05, 2025, 12:00:07 PM »
I get it - I'm an old guy
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Re: All-Time Greats Per Program
« Reply #60 on: April 05, 2025, 01:32:12 PM »
But it is quite amazing how bad passing attacks were, all the way up into the 1990s.

Thank god for BYU, Miami, and Spurrier, because jesus christ......the rest of the country SUCKED at passing.  

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Re: All-Time Greats Per Program
« Reply #61 on: April 05, 2025, 02:38:09 PM »
I suppose that is the reason teams that didn't prioritize passing were doing most of the winning all the way up 2000
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Re: All-Time Greats Per Program
« Reply #62 on: April 05, 2025, 04:58:14 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on April 05, 2025, 02:38:09 PM
I suppose that is the reason teams that didn't prioritize passing were doing most of the winning all the way up 2000
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I think it's more like "I played under so-and-so, and he didn't like passing" + "I don't like passing and I have an .800 winning percentage" + "If it ain't broke, why fix it?"
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a mix of tradition, success, and laziness
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Re: All-Time Greats Per Program
« Reply #63 on: Today at 01:19:20 AM »
Okay, so I've updated Nebraska with FB Tom Rathman.

Made the changes to WV.

Will switch Daniels in for Russell (LSU QB).

I may create all-time IU, but there are a number of better programs people will want well ahead of an all-time Vandy, lol.
Examples:  Navy, Utah, UNC, Missouri, TCU, BYU, Baylor, NC State, Virginia, Cal, Maryland, Texas Tech......
They're all ahead of Vandy on all-time wins.
But I'd also hold BC, KSU, Arizona, and Louisville over them.  Unitas would be on the UL team, I assume.  That'd be cool.  
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Re: All-Time Greats Per Program
« Reply #64 on: Today at 01:20:44 AM »
I'm on day 2 of not having any orders to fill.  I'd been behind the 8-ball since January. 
It's nice to not be busy, lol.  Now I can just explore potential ideas and fart around, like tweaking some All-Time teams.
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Re: All-Time Greats Per Program
« Reply #65 on: Today at 02:10:30 AM »
Quote from: LetsGoPeay on April 01, 2025, 11:23:29 AM
Indiana Hoosiers

QB - Antwaan Randle El, Nate Sudfeld, Trent Green, Dave Schnell
Rushers - Anthony Thompson, Vaughn Dunbar, Tevin Coleman, Alex Smith
Pass-Catchers - James Hardy, Courtney Roby, Ernie Jones, Thomas Lewis, Peyton Hendershot, Duane Gunn
Sacks - Adewale Ogunleye, Van Waiters, Jammie Kirlew, Greg Middleton, Mikail Kamara
INTs - Tim Wilbur, Tracy Porter, Dave Abrams, John Cannady
K - Pete Stoyanovich
P - Tyson Beattie
RET - Mitchell Paige, Marcus Thigpen
So, seeing that you posted an IU all-time team, but having not actually looked through it, I made one myself and now we can compare:
QB - OOF.....Sudfeld, Ramsey.....then there are no others that must be on the team.  So I went with the guy from their RB team (Gonso) and Randle-El.  He's somehow also still their 2nd all-time leading rusher.  Jesus.

RB - Thompson, Dunbar, Coleman, and Levron Williams......Dunbar is 4th in terms of warranting inclusion
*So the Randle-El version will have him as a rusher plus Thompson, Coleman, and Williams.

WR - Hardy, Wynn, Roby, Lewis, Jones, and a high-TD guy from their RB team - Jade Butcher.
Sacks - Ogunleye, Waiters, Kirlew, Middleton, Farrall
INT - Wilbur, Porter, Cannady, Abrams, Brown

K - Ewald....it's him or Oakes.  There's zero argument for Stoyanovich besides his NFL-ness.
P - Evans
KR - Thigpen....could have gone with Porter here, too
PR - J-Shun Harris II
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So if there's any debate here, I'm all ears. 












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