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Topic: All-Time Greats Per Program

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OrangeAfroMan

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Re: All-Time Greats Per Program
« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2025, 03:55:01 PM »
All-Time Nebraska:
QB - Frazier, Gill, Tagge, Crouch (Frost in for Tagge?  Someone else?)
RB - Rozier, Green, Jones (only 3, because all Nebraska QBs take a runner spot)
WB/WR/TE - Rodgers, Fryar, Morgan Jr, Bell, Frosty Anderson, Junior Miller (TE)
Sack guys - Alberts, Wistrom, Skow, Suh, Glover
INT - Stephenson, Bullocks, Nathan Gerry, Bret Clark, Ralph Brown
K - Henery
P - Hadenfeldt
RET - Rodgers, Hughes
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Re: All-Time Greats Per Program
« Reply #15 on: March 30, 2025, 04:52:21 PM »
All-Time Nebraska:
QB - Frazier, Gill, Tagge, Crouch (Frost in for Tagge?  Someone else?)
RB - Rozier, Green, Jones (only 3, because all Nebraska QBs take a runner spot)
WB/WR/TE - Rodgers, Fryar, Morgan Jr, Bell, Frosty Anderson, Junior Miller (TE)
Sack guys - Alberts, Wistrom, Skow, Suh, Glover
INT - Stephenson, Bullocks, Nathan Gerry, Bret Clark, Ralph Brown
K - Henery
P - Hadenfeldt
RET - Rodgers, Hughes
Frost or Ganz (pure numbers) for Crouch ...although NCAA record(3,000 yards rushing and 4,000 yards passing by a QB, career Eric Crouch, 1998-2001)
Ameer Abdullah in for Calvin Jones.  Tough call... Calvin didn't stay for his senior season
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Re: All-Time Greats Per Program
« Reply #16 on: March 30, 2025, 04:54:12 PM »
In addition to Raiola and Barney, I would include some of our best receivers - or wingbacks in the case of Johnny Rogers.  To me, that would include Kenny Bell, Stanley Morgan, Samari (?) Toure being the most recent.  I don't know about stats but my favorite receiver was Jordan Westerkamp just for all the crazy catches he managed to make. 

And of course, Alex Henery for kicker.  His accuracy was out of this world.
gotta go with Kenny Bell for "The Block" and the hair
Westy had the best hands in Husker history
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Re: All-Time Greats Per Program
« Reply #17 on: March 30, 2025, 05:30:44 PM »
I'm all ears.  I want a fan of the program to be satisfied with their all-time team.
I can include Pac Man as long as WV fans aren't going to be wondering WHERE THE HELL IS TIM AGEE?!?! Cuz I have no idea who Agee is....it's a bigger sin to exclude someone who belongs than to tack on a 'best' guy who falls short statistically.
Same with Talley.  As long as dropping Gary Stills isn't a big deal, I'd include him. 

I probably included Thomas for era variety (guessing here).  I just want to avoid all receivers being from this century.  If Henry makes a lot more sense, then I can include him.
Let me know.

Thanks.
Cool. Here’s my two cents then.

QB- I like your 4. A lot of people would argue for Marc Bulger or Hostetler but it would have a lot to do with pro careers (I know how you feel about that). I personally have no problem with those guys.

RB- Yes. Those 4.

WR-Thomas should definitely come out of that group.  You’d be surprised how many WVU fans wouldn’t even know who he was. No one would miss him. I’d personally put in Chris Henry.  If you want to go a little older school you should consider Reggie Rembert (late 80s) or Danny Buggs (early 70s).

Sacks- Talley should be on the list.  I’d take out Julian Miller for him.  Miller was a good player but not considered an all-timer at WVU.  If you are just looking for great DL/LB and not necessarily pass rushers I’d consider Grant Wiley or Sam Huff for one of the Stills or Turnbull.

INT- I think Pac Man needs to be on the list.  I think most WVU fans would agree.  I’d put him for either Agee or Snider.  Probably Agee since his era is represented by Newberry and Snider comes from a very underrepresented era.

Everything else looks good to me.  I was all set to give you a better PR than John Mallory (never even heard of him).  But I looked up Mallory’s stats and was blown away.  He’s definitely the all time PR.
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Re: All-Time Greats Per Program
« Reply #18 on: March 30, 2025, 06:59:11 PM »
Frost or Ganz (pure numbers) for Crouch ...although NCAA record(3,000 yards rushing and 4,000 yards passing by a QB, career Eric Crouch, 1998-2001)
Ameer Abdullah in for Calvin Jones.  Tough call... Calvin didn't stay for his senior season
Jones' 6.8 yards per carry though......but I was just thinking, it would make sense to include a FB, right?  It's Nebraska!
Is there a consensus 'best running FB' in Huskers history?  I'm amazed at how few carries they had vs the IBs.  
It can't be Schleschinshinger lol, he barely had any carries.  A Mackovicka perhaps or Rathman?  Is someone else out there at FB with more volume?

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Re: All-Time Greats Per Program
« Reply #19 on: March 30, 2025, 06:59:29 PM »
Cool. Here’s my two cents then.

QB- I like your 4. A lot of people would argue for Marc Bulger or Hostetler but it would have a lot to do with pro careers (I know how you feel about that). I personally have no problem with those guys.

RB- Yes. Those 4.

WR-Thomas should definitely come out of that group.  You’d be surprised how many WVU fans wouldn’t even know who he was. No one would miss him. I’d personally put in Chris Henry.  If you want to go a little older school you should consider Reggie Rembert (late 80s) or Danny Buggs (early 70s).

Sacks- Talley should be on the list.  I’d take out Julian Miller for him.  Miller was a good player but not considered an all-timer at WVU.  If you are just looking for great DL/LB and not necessarily pass rushers I’d consider Grant Wiley or Sam Huff for one of the Stills or Turnbull.

INT- I think Pac Man needs to be on the list.  I think most WVU fans would agree.  I’d put him for either Agee or Snider.  Probably Agee since his era is represented by Newberry and Snider comes from a very underrepresented era.

Everything else looks good to me.  I was all set to give you a better PR than John Mallory (never even heard of him).  But I looked up Mallory’s stats and was blown away.  He’s definitely the all time PR.
Will do.  I appreciate it.  
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Re: All-Time Greats Per Program
« Reply #20 on: March 30, 2025, 07:25:23 PM »
Rathman by quite a bit
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Re: All-Time Greats Per Program
« Reply #21 on: March 30, 2025, 07:27:33 PM »
Rathman by quite a bit
And so for their 4 ball-carriers, do you think having a FB instead of 3 IBs + the QB is the right call?  For all-time Nebraska w/ the option game?
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Re: All-Time Greats Per Program
« Reply #22 on: March 30, 2025, 07:58:15 PM »
not sure how the game works - Rathman doesn't have numbers similar to an I-back or even a QB

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Re: All-Time Greats Per Program
« Reply #23 on: March 30, 2025, 08:55:12 PM »
I use their career stats and their carries in the game are rounded to the closest 5%.  
Say it's Frazier, Rozier, Green, and Rathman.  I'd add up their carries and divide each individual's carries to get a % out of 20 running plays (d20 die).
So a FB with say, 10% of those carries would get 2 inside runs out of the 20 overall run plays.  

This is it with 3 IBs:

The columns are for a diversity of yardage per run play.  
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Re: All-Time Greats Per Program
« Reply #24 on: March 30, 2025, 09:33:56 PM »
well, maybe if Tom averages 7.47 and they don't expect it, cause he's been pancakin LBs and safeties............
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Re: All-Time Greats Per Program
« Reply #25 on: March 30, 2025, 10:21:16 PM »
A&M 

QB JFF obviously. Tannehill. After that pretty steep drop. 
RB Achane from a few years ago was pretty good. John David Crow from 1950’s won the heisman. Dante Hall.  Not sure who else is in that list. 

WR Mike Evans

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Re: All-Time Greats Per Program
« Reply #26 on: March 31, 2025, 10:13:11 AM »
Does Vanderbilt get one? 

I'd be curious to see how many of those guys I'd know and how many I'd have to look up.  

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Re: All-Time Greats Per Program
« Reply #27 on: March 31, 2025, 10:22:18 AM »
A&M

QB JFF obviously. Tannehill. After that pretty steep drop.
RB Achane from a few years ago was pretty good. John David Crow from 1950’s won the heisman. Dante Hall.  Not sure who else is in that list.

WR Mike Evans
RBs I remember from my time in college, feels like all of them were great because they regularly trashed the Longhorns.  Maybe my team was just that crappy, but...

Rodney Thomas
Greg Hill
Leland McElroy

More recently Ja'Mar Toombs.  He was a big dude.

And then of course the supremely talented TE Martellus Bennett.  He really hated UT as I recall.  

 

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