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Topic: All-Time AP All-American Team named

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Gigem

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Re: All-Time AP All-American Team named
« Reply #56 on: August 17, 2025, 11:07:39 AM »
OAM, you do realize that Marcus is trolling and baiting the fuck out of you, right?  I mean, of course he’s going to think VY is a much better player, and of course you’re going to think TT is a much better player.  But even I can hear him chuckling from here. 

Besides, everybody knows Johnny Football was better than both, and played on a much worse team. 🤣
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Re: All-Time AP All-American Team named
« Reply #57 on: August 17, 2025, 11:08:30 AM »
Ooof.  Johnny 8-ball talk on the best player thread.  Now we're truly through the looking glass.
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Re: All-Time AP All-American Team named
« Reply #58 on: August 17, 2025, 11:11:17 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on August 17, 2025, 11:08:30 AM
Ooof.  Johnny 8-ball talk on the best player thread.  Now we're truly through the looking glass.
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Re: All-Time AP All-American Team named
« Reply #59 on: August 17, 2025, 11:13:18 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on August 17, 2025, 10:57:57 AM
You're the one using stats as your sole source of truth, not the rest of us.  I don't think anyone, other than you, would make that claim.
So you want me to rope in the avalanche of other positives concerning Tim 3:16 Tebow?  I'm not sure i have the time.  :86:
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Re: All-Time AP All-American Team named
« Reply #60 on: August 17, 2025, 11:14:20 AM »
Quote from: Gigem on August 17, 2025, 11:07:39 AM
OAM, you do realize that Marcus is trolling and baiting the fuck out of you, right?  I mean, of course he’s going to think VY is a much better player, and of course you’re going to think TT is a much better player.  But even I can hear him chuckling from here.

Besides, everybody knows Johnny Football was better than both, and played on a much worse team. 🤣
I'm laughing along, too.  It's all fun and it's early Sunday morning.  The Vienna Beef joint in Glendale isn't open yet.  :57:
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Re: All-Time AP All-American Team named
« Reply #61 on: August 17, 2025, 11:14:52 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on August 17, 2025, 11:14:20 AM
I'm laughing along, too.  It's all fun and it's early Sunday morning.  The Vienna Beef joint in Glendale isn't open yet.  :57:
Be sure to get some eggs with that!
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« Reply #62 on: August 17, 2025, 11:15:17 AM »
Quote from: Gigem on August 17, 2025, 11:07:39 AM

Besides, everybody knows Johnny Football was better than both, and played on a much worse team. 🤣
Yeah, and he never got shut out by Oklahoma.  :96:
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Re: All-Time AP All-American Team named
« Reply #63 on: August 17, 2025, 11:16:03 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on August 17, 2025, 11:14:52 AM
Be sure to get some eggs with that!
Now you've crossed the line!  :sign0004:
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Re: All-Time AP All-American Team named
« Reply #64 on: August 17, 2025, 11:18:50 AM »
QB talk aside, the position of safety is interesting to me.

I think most of us know and acknowledge that in baseball, 2nd basemen are basically guys agile enough to play SS, but with weaker arms.
Is safety in football a similar spot?  Guys who are fast, but too big or stiff to play CB?  Guys who like to hit, but are too small to play LB?  
Yet in high school, teams often put their best, fast player back at safety to just be free to run around and make plays.
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What I'm getting at is that it may be kind of difficult to rate a safety.  
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Re: All-Time AP All-American Team named
« Reply #65 on: August 17, 2025, 11:20:09 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on August 17, 2025, 10:30:59 AM
Vince Young is the greatest college football player of all time.  Watch the games.  Somebody's brain is broken and it's not mine.
That's a stretch,off the top of my head Bo,Barry,Herschell,Tommy Frazier 2 NCs,Archie 2 Heismans,OJ, hell even Earl
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« Reply #66 on: August 17, 2025, 11:23:19 AM »
But didn't you watch him play?!?  No one was better at tucking the ball when the first read wasn't there and getting 6-7 yards out of it!  Exactly what you hope your QB does, over and over!  

And he really liked playing Colorado.  
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Re: All-Time AP All-American Team named
« Reply #67 on: August 17, 2025, 11:33:11 AM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on August 17, 2025, 11:20:09 AM
That's a stretch,off the top of my head Bo,Barry,Herschell,Tommy Frazier 2 NCs,Archie 2 Heismans,OJ, hell even Earl
VY easily better than all those guys.  Even Earl.
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Re: All-Time AP All-American Team named
« Reply #68 on: August 17, 2025, 11:42:53 AM »
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Re: All-Time AP All-American Team named
« Reply #69 on: August 17, 2025, 12:03:44 PM »
This is about 99% opinion, so my opinion is about as good as any.  The one percent would be trolls who mention Johnny M. or somesuch.

Some Dawg fans say the best UGA player ever was Charlie Trippi.  I can understand that choice while realizing he probably would be a Div III player these days.  Maybe he would have bulked up.

I also think it fair to glance at NFL performance, it's another data point that can separate a "System QB" or QB on a great team or a fluke college QB who couldn't play well in the pros from the good guys.  We saw QBs out of Hawaii put on terrific figures and then bomb in the League, so I think it's more data.  I like more data, usually, even if it's imperfect.

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