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Topic: All Hail the Supreme Leader SOC 10/20/18

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Re: All Hail the Supreme Leader SOC 10/20/18
« Reply #406 on: October 21, 2018, 08:54:12 PM »
Maybe Canada's best running back got himself into the dog house for doing something none of us have heard about?



I'm quite certain Canada is not playing to lose, for cripe pete. He's hoping for a head job.
Nah, he was out there. But Maryland get held to 16, really 15 plays in the half. He was targeted on a pass on the first drive, but dropped it, and was set or a handoff, but the snap was high and the QB had to fall on it. 

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Re: All Hail the Supreme Leader SOC 10/20/18
« Reply #407 on: October 21, 2018, 08:59:31 PM »
Nah, he was out there. But Maryland get held to 16, really 15 plays in the half. He was targeted on a pass on the first drive, but dropped it, and was set or a handoff, but the snap was high and the QB had to fall on it.
All Canada's fault then? Cool.
I didn't see much of that game. I was working in the new place and then came home for lunch and watched the Badgers. It's hard to switch back and forth with Roku. That's one thing I don't like about it.
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Re: All Hail the Supreme Leader SOC 10/20/18
« Reply #408 on: October 21, 2018, 09:07:02 PM »
What?
I'm critical. On here. That's not "mad".
I was happy with Bell, but only when we had Piggy. Once the quarterbacks went down, I thought he did a terrible job at adjusting to Max.
I was critical of Canada before he got here and listed why before the season started.
My thoughts have come to fruition.
Are you telling me that if your best running back didn't touch the ball until the end of the 3rd quarter, you wouldn't question your offensive coordinator?
It doesn't surprise me though. The same people who praise His abilities as an offensive coordinator don't believe Ty Johnson is a good running back.
See, I read that last paragraph, and I see mad. Maybe chippy. And there's nothing wrong with that. It's the way most fans interact with sports. A lot of bombast and swings of emotion. It's not bad, but it does make things seem very dramatic. 
I didn't even say you shouldn't be questioning the OC. But if we read it through your lens, everything would always be very up or very down. Things are usually in the middle. 
That said, the part of the post that you didn't quote (possibly because it did not raise strong emotions) was that I said, we might just be overrating him. He's creative, but not that effective. I promised the breakdown, let's have it. 
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IU there's a hand behind your back. At UW QB situation was a mess, so that's kinda impressive. Overall, a little better than I expected, but he has been occasionally very good or great, often just OK. Anyway, in five, maybe six games, he won't be your problem. So cheers to that. 

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Re: All Hail the Supreme Leader SOC 10/20/18
« Reply #409 on: October 22, 2018, 07:08:24 AM »
I wouldn't mind seeing Rudy get a head job somewhere after the season. Let PC go back to calling all the plays and slide Bostad back in at OL coach/run game coordinator.
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Re: All Hail the Supreme Leader SOC 10/20/18
« Reply #410 on: October 22, 2018, 08:23:20 AM »
See, I read that last paragraph, and I see mad. Maybe chippy. And there's nothing wrong with that.
He made a valid counter point to your assertions,maybe someone else is uppity/snippy.He is right unless there were disciplinary/injury reasons.Why did a useful force of the offense not get the rock to late.Was he used to disguise or as a diversion that long?As Paul Brown once said if you have a big gun you shoot it.Dragging out stats from different seasons/programs/opposition doesn't pertain to that comment and  proves nothing.I'm not saying Canada sux at all and for the most part would take a chance on him if Urbz left.Iowa clearly had the upper hand in talent against Maryland.So many X a coach can't do a lot i.e. Frost at UNL.With the right parts however there might be hell to pay.There have also been a lot of great asst coaches or coordinators that don't always translate to HC.Canada like Warriner sure has moved around the last 5-6 seasons.What's up with that?attitude or looking for opportunity?
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Re: All Hail the Supreme Leader SOC 10/20/18
« Reply #411 on: October 22, 2018, 08:27:02 AM »
I was at the Iowa game Saturday. I spoke with a couple buddies after the game, and we were all kind of in shock about how bad Maryland's game plan was. The term that kept getting thrown around was "junior high offense."

Without doing any fact checking, it feels like 40-ish% of their plays were jet sweeps, and I thought they did a particularly poor job of mixing it up off the sweep action to keep Iowa honest.

The wind was terrible. Ferentz said they had to throw out about half their game plan. It's possible Maryland had also planned some stuff that was not feasible with the weather.

I don't watch enough of Maryland to know if this was a typical game plan. I wouldn't say the game is an indictment of Canada's ability, but I do feel it was a very poor performance.

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Re: All Hail the Supreme Leader SOC 10/20/18
« Reply #412 on: October 22, 2018, 08:29:51 AM »
It's should be a fun day of college football.  I'll miss most of it, because my daughter has a soccer tournament.  Her first game is at 1:15, but we are supposed to get there at noon.  Clearly the coach has no respect for the structures of college football.  So I'll be trying to check in on here and on the games from a cold, rainy field, and otherwise be fantasizing about being warm by a television.  

Should be back to watch OSU give up 50 to Purdue, though.
You should post something like this the morning of Nov. 24th.
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Re: All Hail the Supreme Leader SOC 10/20/18
« Reply #413 on: October 22, 2018, 08:34:26 AM »
The Committee technically. The secret is always been these are mostly silly frivolities that are taken seriously because when we rank things it makes our brains go haywire.
Yup, I don't think of them as poll voters.  I think they do spend more time on this, which is a good thing in general.
Your average coach doesn't, and only a few, if that, sportwriters do it.
Most of the polls we fans generate spend little time analyzing teams 11-25.  We rank order them by losses for the most part, with a few jumps and drops often due to recent games.

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Re: All Hail the Supreme Leader SOC 10/20/18
« Reply #414 on: October 22, 2018, 10:24:27 AM »
all Coaches are busy, I give them a break

but sportswriters?  There are plenty of them out there.  If they are too busy or uninterested to give their ballots more than a few minutes a week, they should decline the offer.  Let some other sportswriter with more time and energy fill out a ballot

I would guess most of them are giving good effort, but it's not easy as we know.
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Re: All Hail the Supreme Leader SOC 10/20/18
« Reply #415 on: October 22, 2018, 10:45:50 AM »
Why would any sportswriter give this more than 5 minutes of his attention and effort?

First of all, his vote is a small fraction of the final, so if he really goofs, it doesn't much matter anyway, and there is no penalty for it.  The dude is probably watching the major games of the weekend, not how a couple of teams that are 5-3 played beyond the score.

I never spent more than 5 minutes on my own efforts, probably not more than 2.  You get down past 15th and you start thinking "eh, whatever".

And these guys have "real jobs" of a sort, and probably would rather get their poll submitted and hit the bar than ponder it in depth.  I know I would.  I write my story for the day and think "Oh yeah, I have to submit that poll, bing bang boom, emailed it, done.".

And, today, none of this matters anyway for them, not one bit.  Not a tiny iota of importance.

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Re: All Hail the Supreme Leader SOC 10/20/18
« Reply #416 on: October 22, 2018, 11:04:56 AM »
Why would any sportswriter give this more than 5 minutes of his attention and effort?


And, today, none of this matters anyway for them, not one bit.  Not a tiny iota of importance.
because it's his responsibility
if the writer doesn't think it matters he should decline the opportunity
one of the Husker beat writers has a weekly column where he publishes his ballot and explains his reasoning
if that is too much to ask then allow another writer the opportunity, if the AP can't find enough qualified writers that will give a decent effort, then abolish the poll.
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Re: All Hail the Supreme Leader SOC 10/20/18
« Reply #417 on: October 22, 2018, 01:44:05 PM »
Voters aren't any worse than any population.  We, as humans, suck at putting things in the proper context.  We're not good at valuing process.  We're mentally lazy and like to look at one outcome, then go with it.  The idea of thinking and taking several things into account doesn't appeal to us, at least in groups (a la a group of voters).  


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Re: All Hail the Supreme Leader SOC 10/20/18
« Reply #418 on: October 22, 2018, 01:55:49 PM »
Why would any sportswriter give this more than 5 minutes of his attention and effort?

First of all, his vote is a small fraction of the final, so if he really goofs, it doesn't much matter anyway, and there is no penalty for it.  The dude is probably watching the major games of the weekend, not how a couple of teams that are 5-3 played beyond the score.

I never spent more than 5 minutes on my own efforts, probably not more than 2.  You get down past 15th and you start thinking "eh, whatever".
Well if one is specifically a CFB beat writer/columnist like to think they might get a bit deeper.Ya I'd look into variables like injuries,Bosa for instance(before the Purdue pansing).Depends on how many power 5 undefeateds also IMO.You have a point though,after 15 not too many critiquing with a fine tooth comb.Now if it was like an old school math test where you had to show your work,then decline the opportunity.But up to 12-15 give it a look as your readership might depend on it
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Re: All Hail the Supreme Leader SOC 10/20/18
« Reply #419 on: October 22, 2018, 02:01:09 PM »
The beat guy from the Milwaukee paper used to have a vote and gave it up. He spends (not currently - out sick) 3+ hours in a press box and then locker room/presser coverage. Then he has to get stories done for Sunday's paper.


How the hell is he watching any other games? Answer? He wasn't. 
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