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Topic: A Bollman For Your Thoughts? SOC 11/10/18

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Re: A Bollman For Your Thoughts? SOC 11/10/18
« Reply #364 on: November 13, 2018, 02:56:40 PM »
Because valuing one game over 12 is dumb.
agreed, but that's what the conferences are doing to decide their champion
so conference championship games are dumb
conferences with more members than can all play each other in the same season are dumb
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Re: A Bollman For Your Thoughts? SOC 11/10/18
« Reply #365 on: November 13, 2018, 05:06:34 PM »
Agreed.
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Re: A Bollman For Your Thoughts? SOC 11/10/18
« Reply #366 on: November 14, 2018, 08:05:18 AM »
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Re: A Bollman For Your Thoughts? SOC 11/10/18
« Reply #367 on: November 14, 2018, 08:28:31 AM »
I don't like a playoff scheme that offers a better than 50% chance that the playoff champion is not the best team.


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Re: A Bollman For Your Thoughts? SOC 11/10/18
« Reply #368 on: November 14, 2018, 09:25:17 AM »
I don't like a playoff scheme that offers a better than 50% chance that the playoff champion is not the best team.


I've certainly never been proposing that 16 team format as what I want to happen.

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Re: A Bollman For Your Thoughts? SOC 11/10/18
« Reply #369 on: November 14, 2018, 09:26:19 AM »
Even an 8 team playoff makes it likely that the champion will not be the "best team".


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Re: A Bollman For Your Thoughts? SOC 11/10/18
« Reply #370 on: November 14, 2018, 09:27:55 AM »
The best team is Alabama.

If that's all you care about, don't have a playoff (which I'm also cool with).  Alabama may not wind up being the playoff winner, but there's no LIKELY outcome at this point that would make me think they aren't the best team.

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Re: A Bollman For Your Thoughts? SOC 11/10/18
« Reply #371 on: November 14, 2018, 09:30:30 AM »
I like the four team set up.  It is a balance between giving the best team a good shot at winning and not leaving out the real best team.  I doubt the teams ranked 5th or 6th are the real best team more than one time in ten years, if that.

I could go with 6 personally, but I think that is over the edge of the ideal compromise.

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Re: A Bollman For Your Thoughts? SOC 11/10/18
« Reply #372 on: November 14, 2018, 09:35:47 AM »
I think the #5 or #6 team could absolutely be the best team, but personally I don't care about that.  They didn't have the resume to warrant a chance to prove that, and I care more about resume than eye test or actual talent.

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Re: A Bollman For Your Thoughts? SOC 11/10/18
« Reply #373 on: November 14, 2018, 09:46:26 AM »
They COULD BE, but I think it happens once in a decade, maybe.  The COM should be able to find a best team with four shots.

That last spot will nearly always be contentious, whether 4 or 6 or 8 or 16.

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Re: A Bollman For Your Thoughts? SOC 11/10/18
« Reply #374 on: November 14, 2018, 09:49:57 AM »
Your 8/9, 7/10, and 6/11 games this week would all be fascinating, ELA. I guess that's prob true every week and I hadn't noticed.

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Re: A Bollman For Your Thoughts? SOC 11/10/18
« Reply #375 on: November 14, 2018, 09:54:34 AM »
Yeah, if we just was the truest full season champ, I'd like to return to a poll based method, pre-1998. But I gave up with that argument because I'm happier when my words aren't pointless. Now I accept that we're doing this thing, and accept that it's already crushed bowl (Rose) traditions and risks encroaching on the import of the regular season. So I just want the smallest playoff to include P5 champions. So I want 6.
We're in this weird inflection point where even people who hated the idea of going from two to four think it'd be far better if we grew from four to six.

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Re: A Bollman For Your Thoughts? SOC 11/10/18
« Reply #376 on: November 14, 2018, 10:24:19 AM »
Whatever the system is, I want autobids.  The conference championship games have turned into glorified scrimmages because it's not clear whether they impact the playoffs or not.  Sucks all the wind out of them.  I never loved them in the first place, but they are here and they are staying so might as well make them mean something.

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Re: A Bollman For Your Thoughts? SOC 11/10/18
« Reply #377 on: November 14, 2018, 10:31:01 AM »
Expand playoff to include six teams.  P5 conference champions automatically get a bid.  The sixth slot can be at large for independents or members of non-P5 conference.  If you're in a P5 conference and not the champion, too bad.  I don't care if you're ranked #2 and some other P5 champion is ranked 30.
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