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Topic: #9 Ohio State (8-1, 10-2) at Michigan (5-4, 8-4) Post Game

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Re: #9 Ohio State (7-1, 9-2) at Michigan (5-3, 8-3) Game Week
« Reply #42 on: November 22, 2017, 06:35:14 PM »
Bullshit the ball had to crack the 15 which it did and ESPN's Ref said he had it and the ref who made the call was from....Meeechiigan
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Re: #9 Ohio State (7-1, 9-2) at Michigan (5-3, 8-3) Game Week
« Reply #43 on: November 22, 2017, 06:37:02 PM »
love it
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Re: #9 Ohio State (7-1, 9-2) at Michigan (5-3, 8-3) Game Week
« Reply #44 on: November 22, 2017, 06:38:45 PM »
Bullshit the ball had to crack the 15 which it did and ESPN's Ref he had it and the ref who made the call was from....Meeechiigan
ESPN's ref? What do you mean?

Ball never cracked the 15. It was clear as day, it was at least a foot short. Forget the yellow line. Ball had to completely cross the white line for a first. It never did.


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Re: #9 Ohio State (7-1, 9-2) at Michigan (5-3, 8-3) Game Week
« Reply #45 on: November 22, 2017, 06:43:20 PM »
It did too stop photoshopping at MGOboard.ESPN has a Ref they refer to for officiating questions.Oh and Chris Fowler said their replay in the booth indicated he did.Your photo shows JT falling back after the fact
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Re: #9 Ohio State (7-1, 9-2) at Michigan (5-3, 8-3) Game Week
« Reply #46 on: November 22, 2017, 06:48:30 PM »
ESPN's ref? What do you mean?

Ball never cracked the 15. It was clear as day, it was at least a foot short. Forget the yellow line. Ball had to completely cross the white line for a first. It never did.


I was under the impression that the nose of the ball, at its forward most point, is where it should be spotted.  So, it did not have to completely cross the 15...just had to reach it.
Even in your pics, which are clearly of him falling back after( unless you are going to claim he dove forward sideways with his left hip) looks like that happened.
Either way, there was no evidence to overturn it.  They confirmed it, and the Big Ten office stood behind it.  
Michigan had OSU in a third and 9 on the play before, and Curtis Samuel  got 8 when UM had him pinned in for a loss.  Just a great individual play.
And let's not forget, the play in question did not end the game.  
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Re: #9 Ohio State (7-1, 9-2) at Michigan (5-3, 8-3) Game Week
« Reply #47 on: November 22, 2017, 06:49:11 PM »
Blaming the refs is a cop out. 
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Re: #9 Ohio State (7-1, 9-2) at Michigan (5-3, 8-3) Game Week
« Reply #48 on: November 22, 2017, 06:49:40 PM »
It did too stop photoshopping at MGOboard.ESPN has a Ref they refer to for officiating questions.Oh and Chris Fowler said their replay in the booth indicated he did.Your photo shows JT falling back after the fact
That picture wasn't photo shopped. The first one that Buckeye fan posted in here that I responded too was photo shopped though. Look at the hash marks in that picture.

Oh that moron Chris Fowler said it, must be true. *Roll eye emjoi*

Didn't get the 1st. Still won the game. It happens.

I don't blame the refs. I blame Wilton Speight 70% first and foremost for sucking ass. And I blame Harbaugh next most like 29% for acting like a complete psychopath and losing his cool- and for some questionable play-calling. I only blame the refs 1%.

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Re: #9 Ohio State (7-1, 9-2) at Michigan (5-3, 8-3) Game Week
« Reply #49 on: November 22, 2017, 06:51:40 PM »
I was under the impression that the nose of the ball, at its forward most point, is where it should be spotted.  So, it did not have to completely cross the 15...just had to reach it.
Even in your pics, it looks like that happened.
Either way, there was no evidence to overturn it.  They confirmed it, and the Big Ten office stood behind it.  
Michigan had OSU in a third and 9 on the play before, and Curtis Samuel  got 8 when UM had him pinned in for a loss.  Just a great individual play.
And let's not forget, the play in question did not end the game.  
of course B1G was going to stand behind it...c'mon. They are not going to throw their refs under the bus and call into question the integrity of their own conference.
That play was 4th and 1 in OT. If it's called short, game over. That was the biggest single call in the history of The Game maybe.

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Re: #9 Ohio State (7-1, 9-2) at Michigan (5-3, 8-3) Game Week
« Reply #50 on: November 22, 2017, 06:52:54 PM »
Blaming the refs is a cop out.
I don't blame the refs. I mostly blame Wilton Speight. Thought he was garbage before that game. That game just re-inforced that belief. He's a big strong kid with a nice deep ball and questionable arm strength, really shitty pocket presence, lacks a natural feel for the position, has terrible decision making, and spotty accuracy. Basically: he sucks.
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Re: #9 Ohio State (7-1, 9-2) at Michigan (5-3, 8-3) Game Week
« Reply #51 on: November 22, 2017, 06:57:54 PM »
of course B1G was going to stand behind it...c'mon. They are not going to throw their refs under the bus and call into question the integrity of their own conference.
That play was 4th and 1 in OT. If it's called short, game over. That was the biggest single call in the history of The Game maybe.
It was a big call. If it had gone the other way, game over, and I would not have been able to say the spot was bad.  It was that close...not a foot short.
I remember thinking at the time, I kind of wanted Meyer to take the FG and get it to another OT.  But with two short missed FGs already, he probably felt it was his best chance.
If I were a UM fan, I would probably feel like he was short, and would be pretty bummed.
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Re: #9 Ohio State (7-1, 9-2) at Michigan (5-3, 8-3) Game Week
« Reply #52 on: November 22, 2017, 07:08:28 PM »
It was a big call. If it had gone the other way, game over, and I would not have been able to say the spot was bad.  It was that close...not a foot short.
I remember thinking at the time, I kind of wanted Meyer to take the FG and get it to another OT.  But with two short missed FGs already, he probably felt it was his best chance.
If I were a UM fan, I would probably feel like he was short, and would be pretty bummed.
Meyer has some brass balls. 99.9% of coaches would've just kicked the FG. It was a pretty short FG attempt. Must've been like 31 yard attempt, no?
I think most coaches in that situation would've kicked the FG. Gotta give him credit for trusting his QB. I don't think a lot of coaches make that call. Was the right call bc he won the game. Doesn't matter how you win, all that matters is you win. Like Al Davis said, just win baby.

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Re: #9 Ohio State (7-1, 9-2) at Michigan (5-3, 8-3) Game Week
« Reply #53 on: November 22, 2017, 07:10:43 PM »
That picture wasn't photo shopped. The first one that Buckeye fan posted in here that I responded too was photo shopped though. Look at the hash marks in that picture.

Oh that moron Chris Fowler said it, must be true. *Roll eye emjoi*

Didn't get the 1st. Still won the game. It happens.
He got it - the ball has to break the plane of the yard line in question.How many times have you watched the refs stretch the chains out and the nose of the ball is over?He got it with the initial push,Good Luck Saturday
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Re: #9 Ohio State (7-1, 9-2) at Michigan (5-3, 8-3) Game Week
« Reply #54 on: November 22, 2017, 07:16:09 PM »
Anyway- I expect a war.  Everytime Michigan gets the ball near their own 40 or better, I expect them to sling it deeptp DPJ.  Nothing to lose.  Hit one or two, or get a PI, or if nothing else, loosen up the run defense 

Also expect them to sling it on first down A LOT.  
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Re: #9 Ohio State (7-1, 9-2) at Michigan (5-3, 8-3) Game Week
« Reply #55 on: November 22, 2017, 07:26:11 PM »
He got it - the ball has to break the plane of the yard line in question.How many times have you watched the refs stretch the chains out and the nose of the ball is over?He got it with the initial push,Good Luck Saturday
need more than luck. Only luck that could help is maybe- Andrew Luck lol. Michigan has very little shot in this game.

Peters is out. O'Korn is horrible. He's really, really bad. One of the worst QB's I have ever seen at Michigan. Honestly don't know how he's stuck on the roster. Think they'd have a better shot trying out Alex Malzone. It would be pretty EFFING hilarious to see you guys lose to O'Korn though. I think the Buckeye internet message boards would absolutely melt down. "WE LOST TO O'KORN!!! FIRE MEYER!!!!" The crazies would really come out.

Small shot Speight might be able to go, but even so Speight has been terrible when he's played lately. I don't think even I realized how bad he has been. You have to really break down the raw #'s- and I threw in the spring game because to me his play is a pattern- he's just not good. At all.

Last 3 games of Speight's 2016: 55 completions, 100 attempts (55%), 3 TD's vs. 4 INT's (1 pick 6), 1 Fumble,  44.06 Adjusted QBR

Speight 2017 spring game stats: 9 completions, 26 attempts, (35%), 0 TD's vs. 2 INT's (a 100 yard pick 6)

Speight's first 4 games of 2017: 44 completions, 81 attempts, (54.3%), 3 TD's vs. 2 INT's (2 pick 6's) 23.5 Adjusted QBR



 

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