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Topic: 64-Team Tournament (Football)

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Re: 64-Team Tournament (Football)
« Reply #28 on: March 23, 2020, 12:54:35 AM »
I went through and organized these 64 teams georgraphically, and it came out interestingly convenient.
16 teams from the west.  That's one region, right there.
The midwest has 14 teams. 
The east (PA) has 3.
The southest has 31.
We could take 2 from the east, throw them in with the midwest, and that's another region. 
Then split the SE + 1 East into to 2 regionsl.
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It'd be more like March Madness.  But in the fall.  Not going to replace what we already have, but here's what it would look like:
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West Regional:  05 Texas, 04 USC, 03 USC, 67 USC, 69 Texas, 70 Texas, 72 USC, 74 USC, 74 OU, 75 OU, 00 OU, 91 Washington, 78 USC, 84 BYU, 85 OU, 90 CU
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Midwest Regional:  14 OSU, 66 MSU, 66 ND, 68 OSU, 70 Neb, 71 Neb, 73 ND, 02 OSU, 97 UM, 97 Neb, 95 Neb, 94 Neb, 88 ND, 77 ND
Here's where we could throw in both Penn States if we wanted, to get to 16........82 PSU, 86 PSU
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To split up all the SE teams, I was thinking 'deep south' vs FL teams + others?  I know there's 11 from FL and a whole lot of Bama, so let's see:
Regional 3:  19 LSU, 18 Clem, 17 Ala, 16 Clem, 15 Ala, 12 Ala, 11 Ala, 07 LSU, 72 Ala, 73 Ala, 03 LSU, 92 Ala, 10 Auburn, 09 Ala, 78 Ala, 79 Ala
So basically, it's Alabama, LSU, Clemson, and Auburn
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Which means, Regional 4 is the FL teams, GA teams, and a couple others.
13 FSU, 08 Fla, 06 Fla, 76 Pitt, 01 Miami, 99 FSU, 98 Tenn, 96 Fla, 93 FSU, 91 Miami, 80 UGA, 83 Miami, 87 Miami, 89 Miami, 90 GT
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Meh, I lost someone along the way, but you get it.  LA, AL, FL, GA, and SC are responsible for A LOT of NCs these past 30 years.
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Re: 64-Team Tournament (Football)
« Reply #29 on: March 23, 2020, 12:56:42 AM »
Alabama has been so good for so long that every 1st round game of a regional would have a Bama AND 2 of the games would have Bama-on-Bama matchups.  That's gross.
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Out west would be the USC invitational.  The midwest is all Huskers n Irish. 
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Re: 64-Team Tournament (Football)
« Reply #30 on: March 23, 2020, 10:48:17 AM »
don't cornsider the Sooners to be midwest?
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Re: 64-Team Tournament (Football)
« Reply #31 on: March 23, 2020, 01:41:49 PM »
gonna have a lot of recency bias, but trying to remove that as much as possible.

region 1 i'll take (read like bracket left to right, winners):
19 lsu
15 bama - 15 bama
11 bama - 11 bama - 11 bama
74 usc
03 usc - 03 usc - 03 usc - 03 usc on to final 4
80 uga
97 neb - 97 neb
93 fsu

tough call for me. really think by end of season both 03 usc and 11 bama were lights out good and both could win the whole thing. both had ridiculous d, usc had just that little more off firepower.

region 2:
18 clemson - 18 clem - 18 clem - 18 clem on to final 4
70 texas
10 au - 10 au
06 uf
03 lsu - 03 lsu - 03 lsu - 03 lsu
99 fsu
96 uf - 96 uf
92 bama

10 au has an argument to be in final 4. that would have been one impressive run, though, as 18 clem, 06 uf and 03 lsu are all great teams. almost had 2 03 teams that we should have seen in real life.

region 3:
17 bama
70 neb - 70 neb
09 bama
05 texas - 05 texas - 05 texas - 05 texas on to final 4
02 osu
82 psu - 82 psu
95 neb - 95 neb - 95 neb
91 miami

oh my, what a tough call. 95 'skers arguably the best team ever... but so is 05 texas. probably a helping of recency bias, but i'm giving the slightest of edges to 05 texas.

region 4:
16 clem
12 bama - 12 bama
08 uf - 08 uf - 08 uf - 08 uf on to final 4
04 usc
01 miami - 01 miami - 01 miami
83 miami
94 neb - 94 neb
91 wash

another crazy hard call. 08 uf is one of my favorite teams not from bama. just great all around. tebow, percy, spikes with prime meyer and mullen/strong as o/d coords. stacked. but talk about stacked, 01 miami? 94 neb? 04 usc? this one is loaded with talented teams. but i'm taking uf.

so for final 4 you have:
03 usc
18 clem
 - i'll take 03 usc. 18 clem was a great team, but seems like the weakest of the final 4, imo.

05 texas
08 uf
 - i'll take 05 texas. as much as i was fanboying over 08 uf above, 05 texas is just as stacked and was just slightly better overall.

final:
03 usc
05 texas
 - 05 texas settled this on the field as much as possible. man would this be fun to watch, though.

so, yep, lot of recency bias, but it's my picks. tough brackets.

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Re: 64-Team Tournament (Football)
« Reply #32 on: March 23, 2020, 05:56:02 PM »
don't cornsider the Sooners to be midwest?
Well there's just fewer schools out west in general, it's less condensed.  So if you have any history of doing 'bracketology', you know everywhere west of the Mississippi is considered "West" when it comes to brackets.  I lumped Nebraska in the midwest because they joined the B10.  
It's all just for fun, anyway.
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Re: 64-Team Tournament (Football)
« Reply #33 on: March 23, 2020, 05:59:01 PM »
I always lump the Sooners and Huskers together because of the old Big 8
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Re: 64-Team Tournament (Football)
« Reply #34 on: March 23, 2020, 06:38:25 PM »
For the first regional, I'd have it like this:
19 LSU over 66 MSU
15 Bama over 69 Texas
11 Bama over 72 Bama
74 USC over 07 LSU
03 USC over 77 ND
80 UGA over 00 OU
97 UNL over 84 BYU
93 FSU over 88 ND
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I respect that Spartans D, but they can't cover everything, all the time.  Accurate QB AND the top WR and another great WR and a good RB, and that QB can scramble.  It's too much.
I think 70 Texas was better than 69, and too much Henry + that D.  
Usually when an option team plays an all-time great D - advantage option team, BUT...you know how LSU didn't cross the 50 until the 4thQ in the title game?  I'm not sure 72 Bama crosses the 50 at all vs the 2011 Tide.
I'm not overly impressed by 74 USC or 07 LSU.  I just think Anthony Davis has another big day in a big game.
03 USC was sick.  That is all.
If Herschel was the best ever, he'd be enough vs this 00 Sooners' squad.
I'd pick any of the other 63 teams to beat 84 BYU.
Because 93 FSU lost to ND that year, I think they focus on the 88 Irish and play up to their talent level.
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2nd round matchups:
19 LSU vs 15 Alabama
11 Alabama vs 74 USC
03 USC vs 80 Georgia
97 Nebraska vs 93 FSU
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Re: 64-Team Tournament (Football)
« Reply #35 on: March 23, 2020, 07:26:56 PM »
2nd region:
18 Clemson over 66 ND
14 OSU over 70 Texas
72 USC over 10 Auburn
74 OU over 06 Florida
78 USC over 03 LSU
99 FSU over 81 Clemson
96 Florida over 85 OU
92 Bama and 89 Miami would be a scoreless tie
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18 Clemson close, over 66 ND.  I think the Irish had the athletes (relative) to match up well, but were probably too conservative for their own good.  Clemson would actively make big plays and pull it out.
I wanted to pick the 70 Horns, but if downfield passing with Barrett is your team's only weakness, that's a damn good team.  
I'll go with Keith Jackson's 'best team ever' over Cam and Auburn's shaky defense
I'm not sure the 06 Gators defense could last 4 quarters vs that Sooner option
I thiink the 78 Trojans were just more talented than that 03 LSU team
In maybe the 2nd blowout I'd predict, I think the 99 Noles would embarrass 81 Clemson
I don't think Spurrier gets pantsed 2 years in a row by a great option team.  Florida scores and scores.
Hmm.  2 all-time great defenses.  I think Miami makes the mistake of trying to pass and turns it over.  I'll take the 92 Tide, with bleach.
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2nd round matchups:
18 Clemson vs 14 OSU
72 USC vs 74 OU
78 USC vs 99 FSU
96 Florida vs 92 Alabama
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Re: 64-Team Tournament (Football)
« Reply #36 on: March 23, 2020, 07:27:12 PM »
This is fun, the 2nd round is already getting sexy.
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Re: 64-Team Tournament (Football)
« Reply #37 on: March 23, 2020, 08:23:12 PM »
For the first regional, I'd have it like this:
66 MSU over 19 LSU - MSU had one close game vs tOSU in Columbus in wind and rain (Bubba Smith!  Clint Jones and Gene Washington played for the Vikings) 4 of the top 8 picks in the NFL draft
69 Texas over 15 Bama  - Bama lost to an ole miss team that wasn't great - James Street just refused to lose
11 Bama over 72 Bama - 72 team lost 2 games, 11 team lost a game in OT then avenged that loss 21-0
74 USC over 07 LSU - Pat Haden and Anthony Davis
77 ND over 03 USC- tough call - Joe Montana over Reggie Bush
00 OU over 80 UGA  - Sooners schedule much more impressive
97 UNL over 84 BYU - easy choice because of BYU's perceived weakness 
93 FSU over 88 ND - tough call - FSU lost to ND in 93, why not again?
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Re: 64-Team Tournament (Football)
« Reply #38 on: March 24, 2020, 12:01:10 AM »
Region 3:
17 Bama over 67 USC
13 FSU over 70 Nebraska
73 Bama over 09 Bama
05 Texas over 75 OU
02 OSU over 78 Bama
98 Tennessee over 82 PSU
95 Nebraska over 86 PSU
91 Miami over 90 GT
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I know most people would go with the Trojans, but they were OJ and not much else.  I'm not especially enamored with the 17 Tide, but you don't want to be one-dimensional vs Saban.
13 Noles close over the pre-legendary Huskers.  The FSU offense is just too much.
09 Bama had Ingram and Julio Jones, but Jones wasn't all that productive.  The 73 Tide had a whale of an offense for back then. 
05 Texas pretty easy, but I don't see them going that far.  I have this aversion to one-man gangs.
If the 02 Buckeyes faced the 79 Tide, I'd pick against them, but the 78 Tide wasn't nearly as good as they'd be a year later.
The 98 Vols were lucky, and they're lucky to face such a pedestrian national champ in the 1st round.
I actually think 86 PSU would hang in vs the great 95 Huskers, but they wouldn't keep it close.
A 3rd big blowout I'd predict - the Canes vs the Jackets.  GT was plucky, but didn't beat anyone great.  They couldn't run that offense vs Miami's LB trio.
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2nd round:
17 Alabama vs 13 Florida St
73 Alabama vs 05 Texas
02 Ohio St vs 98 Tennessee
95 Nebraska vs 91 Miami
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Re: 64-Team Tournament (Football)
« Reply #39 on: March 24, 2020, 02:07:38 PM »
4th Region:

16 Clemson over 68 OSU
71 Nebraska over 12 Alabama
08 Florida over 73 ND
04 USC over 76 Pitt
01 Miami over 79 Bama
97 Michigan over 83 Miami
87 Miami over 94 Nebraska
91 Washington over 90 CU
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The run-through-a-brick-wall Buckeyes would be irrelevant vs Watson & Co.
12 Tide was really good, but these Huskers are all-time elite
73 ND was legit, but would be predictable vs a talented Gator D.
04 USC's overall talent too much for Dorsett & Co.
79 Bama was better than 78 - and the defense was crazy, but 01 Miami would be overwhelming.
If the 83 Canes play like they did vs Nebraska, they would win, but on the average, Michigan would win (and they have the best player on the field).
The 94 Huskers' breakthrough came, in part, because the 94 Canes were a far cry from their late-80s breathern.
I'm not sure what anyone could do vs the 91 Huskies.  09 Buffs their first victim (of many to come).
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2nd round:
16 Clemson vs 71 Nebraska
08 Florida vs 04 USC
01 Miami vs 97 Michigan
87 Miami vs 91 Washington
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Re: 64-Team Tournament (Football)
« Reply #40 on: March 24, 2020, 02:10:34 PM »
So my 2nd round, in total:
19 LSU vs 15 Alabama
11 Alabama vs 74 USC
03 USC vs 80 Georgia
97 Nebraska vs 93 FSU

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18 Clemson vs 14 OSU
72 USC vs 74 OU
78 USC vs 99 FSU
96 Florida vs 92 Alabama


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17 Alabama vs 13 Florida St
73 Alabama vs 05 Texas
02 Ohio St vs 98 Tennessee
95 Nebraska vs 91 Miami


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16 Clemson vs 71 Nebraska
08 Florida vs 04 USC
01 Miami vs 97 Michigan
87 Miami vs 91 Washington


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I'm kind of thinking the 4th region is the 'region of death'.....wow.
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Re: 64-Team Tournament (Football)
« Reply #41 on: March 25, 2020, 12:03:29 AM »
I'm already fretting these 2nd-round matchups.  Okay, 1st region:
19 LSU vs 15 Alabama
This Tide team is sort of set up to have a chance to win this game.  Ball-control offense with Derrick Henry, just feeding him the rock.  Outstanding defense.  Blowout wins vs a monster schedule.  They've got it all.  But I'm going to give the slight nod to the Tigers here.  If they face a similarly-built team again, their 'luck' will run out. 
19 LSU over 15 Bama
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11 Alabama vs 74 USC
Neither team is special overall.  74 USC faces the wrong team to show some offense against.  Bama's offense is ball-control with Richardson & Lacy with McCarron game-managing.  USC will run, run, and run some more vs a brick wall.  And every time they pass will end in disaster...they'll be looking forward to a mere incompletion.  Roll Tide.
11 Bama over 74 USC
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03 USC vs 80 Georgia
UGA eeked out a win just running Herschel 40 times in round 1, but that won't work here.  USC's defense is as good and their offense is special.  This one get's sideways early and is an easy win for the Trojans.
03 USC over 80 UGA
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97 Nebraska vs 93 FSU

These Huskers tend to be the 'other' one, behind 94 & 95, but they were damn good.  You couldn't run on them.  And the QB, RB, and FB all averaged over 6 ypc - that's sick.  Now, Charlie Ward would give the defense fits, and the Noles are probably more talented overall, but in what some might call an upset, I think these Huskers get it done.
97 Nebraska over 93 FSU
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Sweet 16 - Region 1
19 LSU vs 11 Alabama
03 USC vs 97 Nebraska
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