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I strongly dislike him as a person, but he's simply one of the best football coaches of our generation.

I mean was that ever even up for debate/question? 

if not for Saban being the monster that he was at Bama, Urbz might've gone down in history are the greatest college coach ever.

honestly outside of Saban have a hard time saying anyone was better than Urbz in college. he's way up in the convo. he only coached like 12 years at big-time programs like OSU/UF. Who knows how many Nattys he'd have if he coached 25 years at a helmet. 

I actually love the new 12 team format simply because I think we're going to see a lot more of these huge non-con games going forward because an early season loss in them isn't a death sentence like it used to be. And I'm all for the big OOC matchups. Love seeing games like Texas-Michigan, USC-LSU, Bama-Wisconsin.

To me this is a trade-off.  Yes there will probably be more big early OOC matchups because, as you said, "an early season loss in them isn't a death sentence like it used to be", but they will not be as intense and meaningful because, as you said, "an early season loss in them isn't a death sentence like it used to be."  

As I grow older, NONE of it is as intense and meaningful as it used to be, so I guess I'll take the side of the tradeoff where we (hopefully) get to see more big intersectional matchups, and be happy with it.

agreed. 

I would much rather see the huge marquee non-con matchups become standard than continue to watch the helmets vs directional state schools and fcs sisters of the poor. 

I think they should mandate a rule you can only play vs fbs and two of them have to be p4.

Not really, but any opportunity to vocally state he is disliked as a person, i capitalize on.

Meh. Urbz is a sleaze bag but he’s not a priest, he’s a football coach. He’s paid to win football games. Lots and lots of football games. That’s it. 

My issue--as I've stated a lot--is that the season is now intense and meaningful... For about 20 teams. Maybe each individual game isn't as intense, but getting a seat at the table of 12 is.

For the other 110 FBS teams? Eh. Maybe you'll go to a bowl game. Not that anyone cares. It's not the playoff.

Yeah I get it, which is why I always come back to-- the game is for entertainment.  You're supposed to enjoy the game itself, as it plays out on the field, between the white lines.  If you find yourself not enjoying THAT part, then what's the point?

PFF's top 10 NFL draft prospects.

Hard to believe a QB won't wind up going #1. My guess is Carson Beck winds up as the #1 overall pick in 2025.

Top 10 Prospects in the 2025 NFL Draft

Go to hear a fine yr to bitch slap the walvies

Yeah I get it, which is why I always come back to-- the game is for entertainment.  You're supposed to enjoy the game itself, as it plays out on the field, between the white lines.  If you find yourself not enjoying THAT part, then what's the point?

The quality of the entertainment is somewhat dependent on the stakes involved.

I play golf. I'm very entertained out there. I wouldn't expect you or anyone else in the world to want to watch my golf on TV. Me and my normal group are a bunch of crappy golfers playing a $1 skins game. It wouldn't be entertaining to anyone but us. The stakes may matter to us, but they wouldn't to an outside observer. 

Likewise, I play golf, but not just because I like hitting good shots (i.e. the "between the white lines" idea). I can hit good shots on the driving range. The difference is on the golf course, good shots / bad shots have rewards / consequences. On the driving range, good shots are meaningless, as are bad shots. The stakes matter. 

Similarly, there's a big dust-up in professional golf over the past few years. You have the PGA Tour, and then you have an upstart league funded by the Saudi PIF called LIV Golf. That upstart league has paid some star golfers obscene amounts of money to join their tour. They play for consistently larger purses than the PGA Tour. And it's an entertainment FAIL, because what people are playing for on the PGA Tour has history, meaning, and consequences. 

To me, the history / meaning / consequences in the old days of the bowl system were significant. It was entertaining, BECAUSE there was reason to care. Getting to a bowl game was something that a team like mine could take pride in, and then you hoped you might have a chance at a "prestigious" bowl game. I've been to Jan 1 bowl games for my team, the 2000 Outback Bowl and the 2001 Rose Bowl. Bowl games mattered. Now they don't.

What the CFP system is doing is asking ~110 teams to put a helmet on and run into a brick wall, over and over and over, when 20 or so teams are on the other side of the wall. Those teams are never getting through, but they're are asked to keep running into the wall because the money is good enough that they're not going to stop. Parity might be the wrecking ball for that wall, but with NIL / transfer portal we're going the exact opposite direction from anything that might improve parity.