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Topic: #4 Penn State (2-1, 5-1) at #3 Iowa (3-0, 6-0) Post-Game

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Re: #4 Penn State (2-0, 5-0) at #3 Iowa (2-0, 5-0) Game Week
« Reply #84 on: October 08, 2021, 11:03:14 AM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on October 08, 2021, 09:35:11 AM
Hope this turns into a knock down drag out white knuckler 😜
Most likely it will be.  However, I could also see this getting ugly with a few turnovers or big plays.  
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Re: #4 Penn State (2-0, 5-0) at #3 Iowa (2-0, 5-0) Game Week
« Reply #85 on: October 08, 2021, 11:19:49 AM »
I'm thinking both teams for between 20-30 pts,which of course means it won't happen
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Re: #4 Penn State (2-0, 5-0) at #3 Iowa (2-0, 5-0) Game Week
« Reply #86 on: October 08, 2021, 12:30:43 PM »
Should be interesting to see Bobby Stoops' commentary on Fox Sport's version of College GameDay. They are setting up their outdoor studio at the Pentacrest which is about 1 mile from the stadium. He still considers himself a Hawkeye. He has been the honorary captain once in the past. 
Do these guys then go over to the stadium and do a halftime or postgame show there?
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Re: #4 Penn State (2-0, 5-0) at #3 Iowa (2-0, 5-0) Game Week
« Reply #87 on: October 08, 2021, 12:48:51 PM »
Quote from: Hawkinole on October 08, 2021, 12:30:43 PM
Should be interesting to see Bobby Stoops' commentary on Fox Sport's version of College GameDay.
The one good thing about the Urban stuff is hopefully they can slide him back into that chair.  Stoops was a great coach, but he's awful on tv.  Urban was surprisingly great.
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Re: #4 Penn State (2-0, 5-0) at #3 Iowa (2-0, 5-0) Game Week
« Reply #88 on: October 08, 2021, 01:56:37 PM »
Go Hawks!!!
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Re: #4 Penn State (2-0, 5-0) at #3 Iowa (2-0, 5-0) Game Week
« Reply #89 on: October 08, 2021, 03:55:04 PM »

GAME OF THE WEEK
#4 Penn State Nittany Lions (2-0, 5-0) at #3 Iowa Hawkeyes (2-0, 5-0)
4:00 - Iowa City, IA - FOX
It is oversimplifying things to say whoever wins the turnover battle wins the game.  But it also seems true.  Iowa has a great defense, but they've also but turning teams over like crazy (Kent State game aside).  Penn State has only turned the ball over 3 times all season, and never more than once in a game.  The Hawkeyes' defense is good enough to stop Penn State without turnovers.  My concern is whether Iowa's offense is good enough to score on Penn State's defense if they spend all afternoon getting the ball on their own 35 following a Nittany Lion punt.  Tyler Goodson shows flashes of how talented he is, but with one of the less effective passing games, he needs to be far more consistent.  He's averaging 86 ypg, which is good for 7th in the conference, but on 4.3 ypc, the second worst ypc of any starting back, he needing a lot of carries to get it done.  On the flip side, Penn State isn't running the ball all that well either, particularly Noah Cain, who is back from the injury that cost him the entire 2020 season, but has looked awful, averaging just 3.2 ypc.  You want to beat Iowa through the air?  Haha.  Good luck with that one.  After last week's disaster from Taulia Tagovailoa, I think Sean Clifford has strengthened his claim as the conference's best quarterback.  He'll have to be if the Nittany Lion run game doesn't figure it out, something they didn't do in their first two Big Ten games, because Iowa has the conference's top pass efficiency defense.  Yes, the 12 interceptions help, but they are also top 3 in opponent completion percentage and yards per attempt.  Last week they faced Dontay Demus Jr., granted his night, and season, ended early due to injury.  They shut down the Big Ten leader in receiving yards.  This week they get Jahan Dotson, the conference's leader in receptions.  I think this comes down to Penn State limiting turnovers, and assuming they can, can Iowa's offense do anything without the defense's help.  I'd probably pick the home team either way in this one.  Iowa takes a stranglehold on the Big Ten West.
IOWA 23, PENN STATE 18

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Re: #4 Penn State (2-0, 5-0) at #3 Iowa (2-0, 5-0) Game Week
« Reply #90 on: October 08, 2021, 06:46:34 PM »
Quote from: ELA on October 08, 2021, 12:48:51 PM
The one good thing about the Urban stuff is hopefully they can slide him back into that chair.  Stoops was a great coach, but he's awful on tv.  Urban was surprisingly great.
I agree Urban Meyer was a great analyst. He brought credibility to the broadcast. He was the best one on Fox Sports. 
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Re: #4 Penn State (2-0, 5-0) at #3 Iowa (2-0, 5-0) Game Week
« Reply #91 on: October 08, 2021, 06:50:31 PM »
I have little sense of this game other than I ain't picking against Iowa at home
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Re: #4 Penn State (2-0, 5-0) at #3 Iowa (2-0, 5-0) Game Week
« Reply #92 on: October 08, 2021, 06:54:30 PM »
Quote from: Hawkinole on October 08, 2021, 06:46:34 PM
I agree Urban Meyer was a great analyst. He brought credibility to the broadcast. He was the best one on Fox Sports.
He definitely could explain why coaches calling certain things and why they worked. He could avoid the basic stuff (they should have passed instead of ran) and he avoided the minutia (just sort of throwing out coverages or alignment without explaining it). 
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Re: #4 Penn State (2-0, 5-0) at #3 Iowa (2-0, 5-0) Game Week
« Reply #93 on: October 08, 2021, 06:58:07 PM »
Quote from: ELA on October 08, 2021, 03:55:04 PM
GAME OF THE WEEK
#4 Penn State Nittany Lions (2-0, 5-0) at #3 Iowa Hawkeyes (2-0, 5-0)
4:00 - Iowa City, IA - FOX
It is oversimplifying things to say whoever wins the turnover battle wins the game.  But it also seems true.  Iowa has a great defense, but they've also but turning teams over like crazy (Kent State game aside).  Penn State has only turned the ball over 3 times all season, and never more than once in a game.  The Hawkeyes' defense is good enough to stop Penn State without turnovers.  My concern is whether Iowa's offense is good enough to score on Penn State's defense if they spend all afternoon getting the ball on their own 35 following a Nittany Lion punt.  Tyler Goodson shows flashes of how talented he is, but with one of the less effective passing games, he needs to be far more consistent.  He's averaging 86 ypg, which is good for 7th in the conference, but on 4.3 ypc, the second worst ypc of any starting back, he needing a lot of carries to get it done.  On the flip side, Penn State isn't running the ball all that well either, particularly Noah Cain, who is back from the injury that cost him the entire 2020 season, but has looked awful, averaging just 3.2 ypc.  You want to beat Iowa through the air?  Haha.  Good luck with that one.  After last week's disaster from Taulia Tagovailoa, I think Sean Clifford has strengthened his claim as the conference's best quarterback.  He'll have to be if the Nittany Lion run game doesn't figure it out, something they didn't do in their first two Big Ten games, because Iowa has the conference's top pass efficiency defense.  Yes, the 12 interceptions help, but they are also top 3 in opponent completion percentage and yards per attempt.  Last week they faced Dontay Demus Jr., granted his night, and season, ended early due to injury.  They shut down the Big Ten leader in receiving yards.  This week they get Jahan Dotson, the conference's leader in receptions.  I think this comes down to Penn State limiting turnovers, and assuming they can, can Iowa's offense do anything without the defense's help.  I'd probably pick the home team either way in this one.  Iowa takes a stranglehold on the Big Ten West.
IOWA 23, PENN STATE 18
A thoughtful analysis.

Occasionally Tyler Goodson has trouble finding "the hole," but mostly the offensive line has had trouble making "a hole." The Iowa offensive line was much better against Maryland than it had been all season.

Penn State's defense is much better this season than Maryland's. Iowa managed to put 41 on the scoreboard against Penn State in 2020. Penn State's defense was porous its first 5 games last season.
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Re: #4 Penn State (2-0, 5-0) at #3 Iowa (2-0, 5-0) Game Week
« Reply #94 on: October 09, 2021, 08:23:20 PM »
Quote from: Hawkinole on October 04, 2021, 02:42:38 AM
. I suppose all this means Iowa 23 Penn State 20.
I have to give this poster an A+
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Re: #4 Penn State (2-0, 5-0) at #3 Iowa (2-0, 5-0) Game Week
« Reply #95 on: October 09, 2021, 10:04:58 PM »
Quote from: Hawkinole on October 04, 2021, 02:42:38 AM
. I suppose all this means Iowa 23 Penn State 20.
You get a Yuengling,Of course Clifford would take it back had he played all game
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Re: #4 Penn State (2-0, 5-0) at #3 Iowa (2-0, 5-0) Game Week
« Reply #96 on: October 09, 2021, 10:30:57 PM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on October 09, 2021, 10:04:58 PM
You get a Yuengling,Of course Clifford would take it back had he played all game
I had to look Yuengling up. I think you will have to ship one. I am settling for an economy model tonight. I think in beer lingo that means popularly priced.
There were a lot of factors that contributed to the Iowa win, (a) Clifford's exit, (b) Iowa's punting and kicking game, (c) the home field advantage crowd, (d) Petras starting out 1 for 9, and ending up 17 for 31. Hopefully for the Hawkeyes, they won't play Penn State again this year.
What do you suppose was Clifford's injury? I couldn't actually make out an injury on him, so I am thinking rib fracture and he'll be back in 4-6 weeks. The young QB Roberson may be fine when he works out with the first team all week. It was bad timing to throw him into a raucous situation in such an important game.
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Re: #4 Penn State (2-0, 5-0) at #3 Iowa (2-0, 5-0) Game Week
« Reply #97 on: October 09, 2021, 10:39:37 PM »
Didn't see it as I was in and out but a win is a win and they packed the place so that's a fine fall evening when you can get it.The Hawks have beat UM/tOSU/PSU the last times they've played - someone's looking for revenge
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