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Topic: #4 Penn State (2-1, 5-1) at #3 Iowa (3-0, 6-0) Post-Game

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Re: #4 Penn State (2-0, 5-0) at #3 Iowa (2-0, 5-0) Game Week
« Reply #70 on: October 07, 2021, 09:53:09 AM »
https://saturdaytradition.com/big-ten-football/penn-state-iowa-will-be-b1gs-first-top-5-matchup-without-ohio-state-or-michigan-in-nearly-60-years/

According to ESPN’s Chris Fallica, this is the first time the Big Ten has had a top 5 game without Ohio State or Michigan included since 1962. Minnesota and Wisconsin played in that game, with the Badgers winning 14-9.
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Re: #4 Penn State (2-0, 5-0) at #3 Iowa (2-0, 5-0) Game Week
« Reply #71 on: October 07, 2021, 09:58:25 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on October 07, 2021, 09:22:31 AM
so, Penn state's defense was better than Iowa's defense in 2004?
No, Penn State's offense was awful.  Iowa didn't have to score.  My point is that the statistic of not allowing many points is meaningless.
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Re: #4 Penn State (2-0, 5-0) at #3 Iowa (2-0, 5-0) Game Week
« Reply #72 on: October 07, 2021, 10:01:05 AM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on October 07, 2021, 09:53:09 AM
https://saturdaytradition.com/big-ten-football/penn-state-iowa-will-be-b1gs-first-top-5-matchup-without-ohio-state-or-michigan-in-nearly-60-years/

According to ESPN’s Chris Fallica, this is the first time the Big Ten has had a top 5 game without Ohio State or Michigan included since 1962. Minnesota and Wisconsin played in that game, with the Badgers winning 14-9.
This is kind of a meaningless stat, as one of the broadcasts also mentioned that a top 5 match up between B1G schools had only happened like 5 times in the last 50 years.  Two of them being PSU Iowa and MN WI.
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Re: #4 Penn State (2-0, 5-0) at #3 Iowa (2-0, 5-0) Game Week
« Reply #73 on: October 07, 2021, 10:06:05 AM »
Quote from: Big Beef Tacosupreme on October 07, 2021, 10:01:05 AM
This is kind of a meaningless stat, as one of the broadcasts also mentioned that a top 5 match up between B1G schools had only happened like 5 times in the last 50 years.  Two of them being PSU Iowa and MN WI.
Well they must have been smoking the good stuff, because I just counted 9 top 5 matches between just OSU and MI in the last 50 years.  Probably quite a few more involving other teams.
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Re: #4 Penn State (2-0, 5-0) at #3 Iowa (2-0, 5-0) Game Week
« Reply #74 on: October 07, 2021, 10:45:38 AM »
Quote from: Geolion91 on October 07, 2021, 09:58:25 AM
No, Penn State's offense was awful.  Iowa didn't have to score.  My point is that the statistic of not allowing many points is meaningless.
Yes, I believe PSU was 2-6 in conference and 4-7 overall in 2004.  So it does not guarantee any victories, But it does help show just how bad the PSU offense was in 2004.  And knowing this stat does help explain why PSU was able to turn things around in 2005.  Because the defense was already good in 2004.

I believe this stat does help explain how Iowa did not just come out of nowhere in 2021.   The defense has been good for awhile.  They just have been waiting for the offense to do just a little more.
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Re: #4 Penn State (2-0, 5-0) at #3 Iowa (2-0, 5-0) Game Week
« Reply #75 on: October 07, 2021, 10:56:03 AM »
With Penn State, we did have a decent defense, but I think that opponents also recognized that they could play conservatively and our offense would still not score enough to win.
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Re: #4 Penn State (2-0, 5-0) at #3 Iowa (2-0, 5-0) Game Week
« Reply #76 on: October 07, 2021, 10:58:49 AM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on October 07, 2021, 09:53:09 AM
https://saturdaytradition.com/big-ten-football/penn-state-iowa-will-be-b1gs-first-top-5-matchup-without-ohio-state-or-michigan-in-nearly-60-years/

According to ESPN’s Chris Fallica, this is the first time the Big Ten has had a top 5 game without Ohio State or Michigan included since 1962. Minnesota and Wisconsin played in that game, with the Badgers winning 14-9.

I wonder if this stat includes Big Ten CCG, or is only looking at regular season games?

As for Iowa itself I know its had a few top 5 games going back to 1960.

2015 - Big Ten CCG #5 MSU vs #4 Iowa
1985 - #1 Iowa vs. #2 Mich
1960 - Top 5 Iowa vs Top 5 Minnesota

This does not count OOC games or bowls.

I guess none of these count in the stat above because one was a CCG, one was against Mich and one was before 1962.
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Re: #4 Penn State (2-0, 5-0) at #3 Iowa (2-0, 5-0) Game Week
« Reply #77 on: October 07, 2021, 01:46:36 PM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on October 07, 2021, 09:53:09 AM
https://saturdaytradition.com/big-ten-football/penn-state-iowa-will-be-b1gs-first-top-5-matchup-without-ohio-state-or-michigan-in-nearly-60-years/

According to ESPN’s Chris Fallica, this is the first time the Big Ten has had a top 5 game without Ohio State or Michigan included since 1962. Minnesota and Wisconsin played in that game, with the Badgers winning 14-9.
Regular season?

I think MSU-Iowa in the CCG was #4 vs. #5
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Re: #4 Penn State (2-0, 5-0) at #3 Iowa (2-0, 5-0) Game Week
« Reply #78 on: October 08, 2021, 08:01:46 AM »
I have not been able to get a good feel for who is going to win this game.  Early in the week, I was thinking PSU 20, Iowa 16.  Yesterday I was thinking Iowa 20, PSU 6.  Today I am thinking

Iowa 16, PSU 13

I do not expect PSU to turn the ball over as much as Iowa's opponents usually do,  but this approach will limit PSU's scoring chances.  So the key question is can Iowa's offense score on PSU's defense without making any mistakes.  That seems doubtful too.  So that suggests this game could be won with as little as 16 points. 
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Re: #4 Penn State (2-0, 5-0) at #3 Iowa (2-0, 5-0) Game Week
« Reply #79 on: October 08, 2021, 08:29:47 AM »
Quote from: LittlePig on October 08, 2021, 08:01:46 AM
I have not been able to get a good feel for who is going to win this game.  Early in the week, I was thinking PSU 20, Iowa 16.  Yesterday I was thinking Iowa 20, PSU 6.  Today I am thinking

Iowa 16, PSU 13

I do not expect PSU to turn the ball over as much as Iowa's opponents usually do,  but this approach will limit PSU's scoring chances.  So the key question is can Iowa's offense score on PSU's defense without making any mistakes.  That seems doubtful too.  So that suggests this game could be won with as little as 16 points.
That score would not surprise me at all.  I just hope the scores are reversed.

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Re: #4 Penn State (2-0, 5-0) at #3 Iowa (2-0, 5-0) Game Week
« Reply #80 on: October 08, 2021, 08:58:12 AM »
Quote from: Big Beef Tacosupreme on October 07, 2021, 10:06:05 AM
Well they must have been smoking the good stuff, because I just counted 9 top 5 matches between just OSU and MI in the last 50 years.  Probably quite a few more involving other teams.
I think you're misquoting your self.Their not saying just OSU/UM together they are saying top 5 Big Ten contest with out one or the other since 1962.This saturday being being the 2nd (according to ESPN)Where is that wrong?
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Re: #4 Penn State (2-0, 5-0) at #3 Iowa (2-0, 5-0) Game Week
« Reply #81 on: October 08, 2021, 09:20:45 AM »
Quote from: ELA on October 07, 2021, 01:46:36 PM
Regular season?

I think MSU-Iowa in the CCG was #4 vs. #5
I think he meant Regular Season,not post but he certainly didn't state that.If that is accurate then you would be right.You get a Yuengling...perhaps
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Re: #4 Penn State (2-0, 5-0) at #3 Iowa (2-0, 5-0) Game Week
« Reply #82 on: October 08, 2021, 09:25:26 AM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on October 08, 2021, 08:58:12 AM
I think you're misquoting your self.Their not saying just OSU/UM together they are saying top 5 Big Ten contest with out one or the other since 1962.This saturday being being the 2nd (according to ESPN)Where is that wrong?
Nah, I realized I was wrong and so I posted a correction.  :)
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Re: #4 Penn State (2-0, 5-0) at #3 Iowa (2-0, 5-0) Game Week
« Reply #83 on: October 08, 2021, 09:35:11 AM »
Hope this turns into a knock down drag out white knuckler 😜
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