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Topic: #3 Ohio State (11-2) v. #1 Georgia (14-0) Post Game

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Re: #4 Ohio State (11-1) v. #1 Georgia (13-0) Game Month
« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2022, 01:47:53 PM »
is JSN 100% healthy and does he play? Cause that changes the whole equation. 

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Re: #4 Ohio State (11-1) v. #1 Georgia (13-0) Game Month
« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2022, 02:48:21 PM »
is JSN 100% healthy and does he play? Cause that changes the whole equation.
Just announced.  He is not healthy and is preparing for the draft.  

huge blow, but not surprising 
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Re: #4 Ohio State (11-1) v. #1 Georgia (13-0) Game Month
« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2022, 02:53:09 PM »
Just announced.  He is not healthy and is preparing for the draft. 

huge blow, but not surprising
yup. I don't know if I'd say it's really a huge blow as OSU hasn't had him all season and they've already been adapted to life without him, but I think it would've given OSU a much better shot at beating UGA if he'd been able to use this month to get back up to speed in bowl practices and been on that field on game day.

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Re: #4 Ohio State (11-1) v. #1 Georgia (13-0) Game Month
« Reply #18 on: December 05, 2022, 03:04:34 PM »
Don't be worried because:
*  The Tiger receivers are insane if a QB has a good day.  Giving up yards to them is not the alarm is may look like 
I haven't followed LSU all that closely so this is an honest question, not just being argumentative: How would you rate LSU's receivers compared to tOSU's?

Ohio State's are up in the air due to the JSN injury situation. JSN was the preseason favorite for the Biletnikoff. If he is back and "as expected" then the Buckeyes have the #1 WR in the game and Marvin Harrison who is easily top-5 so I can't imagine LSU's are appreciably better.

OTOH, I feel that Egbuka and Flemming haven't quite developed as well as I had hoped. They are GREAT as #3/4 WR's but only something like "above average" as #2/3 WR's.

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Re: #4 Ohio State (11-1) v. #1 Georgia (13-0) Game Month
« Reply #19 on: December 05, 2022, 03:06:33 PM »
I haven't followed LSU all that closely so this is an honest question, not just being argumentative: How would you rate LSU's receivers compared to tOSU's?

Ohio State's are up in the air due to the JSN injury situation. JSN was the preseason favorite for the Biletnikoff. If he is back and "as expected" then the Buckeyes have the #1 WR in the game and Marvin Harrison who is easily top-5 so I can't imagine LSU's are appreciably better.

OTOH, I feel that Egbuka and Flemming haven't quite developed as well as I had hoped. They are GREAT as #3/4 WR's but only something like "above average" as #2/3 WR's.
JSN would've been best WR in cfb had he been healthy, but Marv is the best WR in cfb bar none. Egbuka is pretty damn good, about a year away from really taking off imo. Flemming just OK and been a huge disappointment considering his recruit ranking.

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Re: #4 Ohio State (11-1) v. #1 Georgia (13-0) Game Month
« Reply #20 on: December 05, 2022, 03:42:49 PM »
JSN would've been best WR in cfb had he been healthy, but Marv is the best WR in cfb bar none. Egbuka is pretty damn good, about a year away from really taking off imo. Flemming just OK and been a huge disappointment considering his recruit ranking.
Marvin reminds me of Eddie George. I want to dislike you because of the uniform you wear, but you’re so ridiculously talented and seem like a good dude that it’s tough not to be in awe of such an incredible talent.

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Re: #4 Ohio State (11-1) v. #1 Georgia (13-0) Game Month
« Reply #21 on: December 05, 2022, 03:45:24 PM »
This seems likely to me to be high scoring, something like 41-34, maybe OT, someone gets a key TO and wins.

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Re: #4 Ohio State (11-1) v. #1 Georgia (13-0) Game Month
« Reply #22 on: December 05, 2022, 03:47:24 PM »
I haven't followed LSU all that closely so this is an honest question, not just being argumentative: How would you rate LSU's receivers compared to tOSU's?

I have a similar restriction in the quality of my evaluation here...I've only caught a few Buckeye games this year, so take this with a grain of salt and it's likely worth what you paid for it. 

I'm primarily rating them against previous lsu WR corps and within our conference this year.  I haven't been able to watch enough national games to make a direct comparison with confidence.  My comment is mainly based on past knowledge and how our unit would generally stack up in the bigger landscape on average. 

Ohio State's guys seem easier to evaluate when I watch them.  Simply, Stroud is a far better qb than our guy.  It hasn't been the easiest job evaluating this crew with a qb who goes through long stretches of holding the ball too long and who needs to see them busted-coverage-level open before he'll throw the ball. 

That said, I imagine Boutte was also on the pre-season Biletnikoff short list due to last year before he got injured, leading the conference with Max freaking Johnson throwing to him.  But overall it's about the depth.  There's 5 wrs that have been great when the QB is "up".   There's no one or two guys you can take away and say you can live with the rest.  None of them will be confused with Chase or Jefferson, but they're all really physically gifted and have abused some good corners.....when someone throws them the ball. 

It's also a "right now" thing.  I don't think earlier in the year they were as good as now.  They definitely had to develop chemistry with the new staff and transfer players, and/or outright just had to get better.  Tennessee's group is really good, obviously, but for depth's sake I'd take our wr roster over theirs at this moment.  These guys block like some mofos too....what they did to Bama’s players springing some runs in that game was fantastic.  

All said....I might be inclined to take OSU's top guys (especially with your qb).  I think our guys are not far below them, and there's not really any drop off between the top 5 as far as what they can do and the plays they've made.  I'd take them over any other sec squad, and beyond that I'm just guessing.  

For clarity, if osu wrs pile up on uga I'm not going to be surprised.  I don't think our crew is any better than y'alls.  I think our quality depth makes things hard on a defense because there's no obvious guy to take away, and for that reason I tend to favor our wr unit over others.

....which means little, obviously, since I just haven't watched osu enough to say for sure.  It could be that the Buckeyes top 2 guys are so good that I'd trade 5 of ours for 2 of yours.  Or that the Buckeye's top 5 are more impressive than I suspect. 

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Re: #4 Ohio State (11-1) v. #1 Georgia (13-0) Game Month
« Reply #23 on: December 05, 2022, 03:47:46 PM »
Marvin reminds me of Eddie George. I want to dislike you because of the uniform you wear, but you’re so ridiculously talented and seem like a good dude that it’s tough not to be in awe of such an incredible talent.
I never dislike players bc of the uniform they wear. I just like watching great players, period. I more or less only dislike them if they earn my dislike by being giant dbags lol. I always loved watching Zeke play when he was at Ohio St- that was a GREAT player. Even though Penn St suppose to division rival- LOVED Saquon Barkley- total freak and was like the best NFL draft RB prospect that I'd ever seen. The only two teams that I really don't like are Notre Dame and Michigan State- but loved Kyle Hamilton- 6'4 safety that athletic...insane. And probably the best college WR I've ever seen...LOVED watching Charles Rogers at Sparty- guy was a freak of nature.

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Re: #4 Ohio State (11-1) v. #1 Georgia (13-0) Game Month
« Reply #24 on: December 05, 2022, 04:12:59 PM »
Ohio St defense has these two freaks to look forward to all-game long. UGA offense is weird but in a cool way. Gives off NE Pats 2011 vibes when their best players on offense were the TE's- Gronk & Hernandez. 


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Re: #4 Ohio State (11-1) v. #1 Georgia (13-0) Game Month
« Reply #26 on: December 05, 2022, 04:17:59 PM »
Just announced.  He is not healthy and is preparing for the draft. 

huge blow, but not surprising
Sort of hoping he would attempt it and maybe have even as an effective decoy.I've already seen him projected in the 2nd rd.Tough call had he kept up his trajectory maybe a top ten guy. IMO a hamstring off for another 3-4 weeks on top of his aready lengthy furlough he could give it a try.A whole season off doesn't exactly hone your skills and some will question desire/toughness going into a theater that demands it.Well good luck moving forward kid
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Re: #4 Ohio State (11-1) v. #1 Georgia (13-0) Game Month
« Reply #27 on: December 05, 2022, 04:19:23 PM »
Sort of hoping he would attempt it and maybe have even as an effective decoy.I've already seen him projected in the 2nd rd.Tough call had he kept up his trajectory maybe a top ten guy. IMO a hamstring off for another 3-4 weeks on top of his aready lengthy furlough he could give it a try.A whole season off doesn't exactly hone your skills and some will question desire/toughness going into a theater that demands it.Well good luck moving forward kid
JSN is a 1st rd lock imo. only way he slips out the 1st is if he runs an awful 40 time at the combine imo.

 

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